MickB Micra - Cisco's Micra Files

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 07:20:35 AM
	Hi all, time for a build thread from me, perhaps if I make a thread about it, I will keep it long enough to enjoy it. I've owned 4 (now 5) micra's - this won't be the last I'm sure. OK Super S gone, LX is in. Current spec: 95 LX in white. Whiteline Swaybars Fr Rr Whiteline droplinks Whiteline Panhard rod Whiteline Castor Kit BC Coilovers w/ Swift Springs 10kg/9kg I have many sets of springs, might swap once it is setup. Disc rear axle N14 GTIR front brakes Nology leads Nismo engine mounts / solid engine mounts/ HD powersteering mounts HD clutch - will install when GB work gets done 3.6kg Flywheel - will install when GB work gets done 15x6.5 forged gold rims - 195.50.15 Toyo R1R 15x6.5 SSR Forged black rims - 195.50.15 Toyo R888 Nismo rear wing (not sure if I like it, cbf removing though.) Replacement timing chain 296/280 10mm lift cams p/p head, HD valve springs, Ti retainers ARP head studs N2 0.3mm Head Gasket Mulholland cam gears Bits to go on/in progress: Nismo N1 Exhaust system

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 07:22:16 AM
	Will take some photos today, not much to see but an old white micra though :)

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 09:15:41 AM
	sounds interesting mick, subscribed :) the carbs will have a nice fuelmist hovvering around the bellmouths @ idle with those cams in :o

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 09:37:25 AM
	Sounds a bit like what you have done up here in your last micra that I know own :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 09:41:54 AM
	lol yes I have had it running on a previous incarnation (carbs/these cams) and it was getting around 150kms to a tank. Needless to say thre was a serious vapour in the air!!

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 09:42:50 AM
	RTK WROTE: "Sounds a bit like what you have done up here in your last micra that I know own :)" Yes similar, a lot of the same bits and pieces.

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 10:15:07 AM
	Mickb WROTE: "lol yes I have had it running on a previous incarnation (carbs/these cams) and it was getting around 150kms to a tank. Needless to say thre was a serious vapour in the air!! " heh, reminds me of my austin mini with a race 649 genuine cam, and 45 dcoe sticking through the bulkhead and into the cabin (where the speedo used to sit), i had a job to see where i was going, with my eyes smarting lol

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 11:50:05 AM
	haha how very unsafe, not much engine bay room in those cars!

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 04:10:44 PM
	sounds awesome Mick. White K11's ftw. What wheels are you preparing for it? Also this time round can you please actually post the vid of your k11 running on carbs so we can hear it? I remember you saying you would with your last one, and waiting patiently for you to deliver...

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 15 Mar 2012 08:08:16 PM
	A set of SSR's, not crazy wide old school tho, I'll take a pic tomorrow. Haha and yes sure thing, will do.

penpusher » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 01:01:24 PM
	you mention you have an ebay short shifter but will be removing it. Any particular reason for removing ? Using Motorbike carbs Any particular reason/s for using them ? Are they Bogg bros/R1 Carbs ?

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 02:21:58 PM
	penpusher WROTE: "you mention you have an ebay short shifter but will be removing it. Any particular reason for removing ? Using Motorbike carbs Any particular reason/s for using them ? Are they Bogg bros/R1 Carbs ? " He probably doesn't like the fell, and he probably using motorbike carbies for an awesome induction noise as well as a performance aspect! He has done it all before, search mickeybbb/Mickb and it will come up with what he has said and done, i have found it once before

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 06:13:22 PM
	penpusher WROTE: "you mention you have an ebay short shifter but will be removing it. Any particular reason for removing ? Using Motorbike carbs Any particular reason/s for using them ? Are they Bogg bros/R1 Carbs ? " Short-shifter - The synchros feel mashed on this gearbox, so removing the shortshifter might prolong the life of it a bit. I'm assuming it is an ebay one, doesn't look like a C's shifter, but not stock. Bike carbs.. Although not being road legal, they give excellent bang for buck. As I have had a swag of bikes before, the tuning side of them is easy for me, plus less I have to pay someone else for. The manifold is very well made, could have been a bogg brothers creation (looks like their work), but I bought it from another fellow who raced a CG10 micra in rally etc. And it is a set of carbs off a honda, although an R1 set would also do the job. I will dig up a pic of the manifold..

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 06:18:31 PM
	Manifold
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Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 06:23:21 PM
	SSR CPF (I think..) weigh about 4.9 each, not a bad wheel
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Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 06:26:22 PM
	I will have the sunroof bits and pieces for sale soon too (all in good nick, winder turns freely etc). Need to make a plastic window for it.

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 06:29:12 PM
	less updating more building bro :P.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 06:35:02 PM
	Yeah bro, take hints from you eh :)

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 06:40:16 PM
	hey man, i'm building 3 cars at once :)

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 07:02:42 PM
	Mickb WROTE: Need to make a plastic window for it." mine on the blue car was just a square sheet bonded from underneath mick, it left a 5mm step that would pool rain in one of the corners, but it never leaked. nice looking mani :) and i had my 280 cam recut to 260 (twas cheap coz he only had to take a lick off the sides eh) how about fitting the 280 in the inlet and having the 290 reground to 270 or whatever for the exhaust ?

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 07:18:46 PM
	Yes it will be something along those lines, perspex/something cut and fixed in. Yeah I don't really want to cut these cams, they are billet. I have quite a cheap quote to get spray welded ones made, I will mess with the copies. I only used them in the 280 int 296 ex, setup. I will try them in the other way and see how they go. (both are cut for dizzy input)

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 09:46:33 PM
	We'll be doing the same thing on the car once it's back, as sunroof was binned in favour of a cage. We'll be taking a sheet of aluminum though, joggling it so it sits in the sunroof cutout recess. Get it anodized and bond it in with high modulus silicone sealer, (don't want that thing coming unstuck at 200km/h+). Cams like those will be good for some serious power and rpm given a good head job and enough compression. They look like cast rather than straight billet though. I don't have my blanks to hand but I don't remember them having that much meat on them though. Wonder what the valve lift will be at true engine TDC.

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 16 Mar 2012 11:31:36 PM
	SSUK WROTE: given a good head job" Haha well said, where and how much! Pics mickb hurry up I do say more but in stages of mods before&after

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 17 Mar 2012 01:39:28 AM
	SSUK WROTE: Wonder what the valve lift will be at true engine TDC." going by the analysis chart mick posted up, there is about 150" thou lift @110 deg from peak lift. so if he sets the centreline @ 110 deg atdc, then all 4 valves should be open about 3 to 3.5 mm @TDC eh :o

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 17 Mar 2012 02:57:00 AM
	frank2 WROTE: " SSUK WROTE: Wonder what the valve lift will be at true engine TDC." going by the analysis chart mick posted up, there is about 150" thou lift @110 deg from peak lift. so if he sets the centreline @ 110 deg atdc, then all 4 valves should be open about 3 to 3.5 mm @TDC eh :o" Bah, I couldn't find the thread where the deets were located. That's plenty of lift @TDC, will give lousy idle and give the low end some beating but once up on cam that should go like a #### :oP I don't know what profile we ended up at on the last simulations but we are having a real problem with the follower/spring combo so that things will stay together at max rpm. How oversize on the valves are you planning on going....+1mm? as the stock head is quite shrouded from the factory.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 17 Mar 2012 08:21:27 AM
	Here it is for future reference
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Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 17 Mar 2012 08:35:56 AM
	They do give a very rough idle, but I like it :) When I had them in before I didn't give too much thought to valvetrain damage, springs/followers were all stock, no doubt there was valve float. They were still making power well over 10k rpm (due to cold tyres/light flywheel I did give it 15k rpm accidentally a few times..), although it was lucky I didn't do any serious damage. O/S valves will prob be less than +1mm, bugger all space in there really. With stock pistons and rods, (stock stroke) 9500rpm is the highest that you should go - according to piston speed calculations anyway. Really need to time the cams to bring the power down as far as possible.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 17 Mar 2012 08:50:44 AM
	This is what we need SSUK ;)
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sun 25 Mar 2012 09:36:30 PM
	Haha, that would be one wacky setup! FYI, we have finished simulations and have ended up pretty close to that selection. The limitations were down to working with the 30mm lifter size, the availability of an off the shelf spring and what was possible to be ground from a genuine Nissan cam blank. One more step closer to completion....

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 28 Mar 2012 04:19:33 PM
	SSUK WROTE: "Haha, that would be one wacky setup! FYI, we have finished simulations and have ended up pretty close to that selection. The limitations were down to working with the 30mm lifter size, the availability of an off the shelf spring and what was possible to be ground from a genuine Nissan cam blank. One more step closer to completion...." Link to your build thread? :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 28 Mar 2012 04:28:30 PM
	Small update, Will be changing front cross-member in the next week or so, Need rego before real works will happen :) Just got a valve spring remover kit in the mail, one that bolts to the head, makes it a load easier. Sorted surge tank and pump, carbs in the next installment.

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 28 Mar 2012 04:42:49 PM
	Pics pics pics :D And I removed my valve springs Different to that, got my ass kicked at tafe cause I didn't do it with the tool haha and different way to put them back

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 28 Mar 2012 05:08:22 PM
	RTK WROTE: "Pics pics pics :D And I removed my valve springs Different to that, got my ass kicked at tafe cause I didn't do it with the tool haha and different way to put them back" Yeah I have a big c-clamp remover, but with small heads it does damage/not so easy. The kit I have is like.. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1//1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10001&campid=5337873294&icep_item=380416466586

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 28 Mar 2012 06:01:49 PM
	Mickb WROTE: " SSUK WROTE: Link to your build thread? :) " I don't have one, never bothered to start one on the MSC due to the general consensus. Big build/big budget stuff is a bit wasted to be honest, as anyone who spends more on a car than it cost to buy is often frowned upon. I'm sure you guys would dig it though but living in Norway with the car in England also means I can't just snap away and give thorough updates.

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 28 Mar 2012 06:33:39 PM
	I'm sure you guys would dig it though " big build/big budget (and big thought!) builds are always appreciated! I understand the logistical issues though, just make sure you get pics up when its running! :) mick, do you need to change the front member for rego? is it rotten?

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 28 Mar 2012 06:47:31 PM
	climberjoel WROTE: " I'm sure you guys would dig it though " big build/big budget (and big thought!) builds are always appreciated! I understand the logistical issues though, just make sure you get pics up when its running! :) mick, do you need to change the front member for rego? is it rotten?" I figured as much, with people like TMRS and Kovert offering up some quality builds, it kinda sets the standard across the water ;) The only photos I have at the moment are located on the below link on post number #48, which shows the modified back bulkhead to make more room for the throttle bodies and airbox. There is barely 20mm between runners 3&4 and the bulkhead as standard and coupled with no cold air feed it doesn't bode well for good power potential. http://www.micra.org.uk/threads/skinners-sprint-micra.47481/#post-511861

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 28 Mar 2012 07:17:09 PM
	Mickb WROTE: " RTK WROTE: "Pics pics pics :D And I removed my valve springs Different to that, got my ass kicked at tafe cause I didn't do it with the tool haha and different way to put them back" Yeah I have a big c-clamp remover, but with small heads it does damage/not so easy. The kit I have is like.. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1//1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10001&campid=5337873294&icep_item=380416466586 " That looks awesome will invest in that, when I get a pay rise :D

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 29 Mar 2012 08:21:49 AM
	climberjoel WROTE: " I'm sure you guys would dig it though " big build/big budget (and big thought!) builds are always appreciated! I understand the logistical issues though, just make sure you get pics up when its running! :) mick, do you need to change the front member for rego? is it rotten?" Don't have to, the effort to repair it is almost the same as replacing it, not keen on dodging it up with bog when they are cheap to buy.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 29 Mar 2012 11:27:28 AM
	Update: Just bought a Nismo N1 Exhaust complete, strangely enough it is new, just been in storage for years. My mani/exh is good, but not really tuned length, this will allow me more up top. Certainly will be loud!
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 29 Mar 2012 03:16:37 PM
	I think deafening maybe more appropriate lol!

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 29 Mar 2012 03:49:48 PM
	SSUK WROTE: "I think deafening maybe more appropriate lol! " Yes I agree. I keep sending you PMs, not getting them?

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 29 Mar 2012 04:58:05 PM
	Mickb WROTE: " SSUK WROTE: "I think deafening maybe more appropriate lol! " Yes I agree. I keep sending you PMs, not getting them?" I got them, my spam filter was at work. Added you to my contacts list now, so they will arrive now :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Thu 29 Mar 2012 05:49:53 PM
	Quick stopover in Tokyo in May, time to order some parts!

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 04 Apr 2012 09:31:34 AM
	Update: Shell is rotten (realistically not that bad, but the time/effort to fix it - cbf), will be parting it out, going to check out a few lx's today. Also if someone is keen on a mulholland 7pt cage - $500 and its yours.

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 04 Apr 2012 09:52:59 AM
	Mickb WROTE: "Update: Shell is rotten (realistically not that bad, but the time/effort to fix it - cbf), will be parting it out, going to check out a few lx's today. Also if someone is keen on a mulholland 7pt cage - $500 and its yours." Fuck that's cheap for that cage :O

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 04 Apr 2012 09:02:06 PM
	Cage sold pending payment. Just drove my lx home! Must be a series 2, interior is different. Weird to drive a micra with power-steering, definitely less feel. Friday to swap over suspension/engine mounts etc Roadworthy and rego early next week, then it will begin.

RBLUV » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 04 Apr 2012 09:37:45 PM
	You running door trims on it? I'll take em if not. Saw that exhaust on yahoo and thought fk that looks old hahaha good buy

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 04 Apr 2012 09:40:34 PM
	Mickb WROTE: "Cage sold pending payment. Just drove my lx home! Must be a series 2, interior is different. Weird to drive a micra with power-steering, definitely less feel. Friday to swap over suspension/engine mounts etc Roadworthy and rego early next week, then it will begin." Busy weekend ahead mick :D

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Mon 09 Apr 2012 01:00:07 PM
	OK update.. Suspension, disc axle, new front brakes all in. If the weather comes good will remove engine/gb from super S and changeover mounts, bleed brakes, and take it for a mountain run. Glad to be back at work tomorrow, had well enough of cars for a weekend.

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Mon 09 Apr 2012 04:36:20 PM
	nice work mick, and good to see you are getting the gripper and lower ratio crown wheel and pinion, should transform the car! Cheers

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Mon 09 Apr 2012 07:52:01 PM
	climberjoel WROTE: "nice work mick, and good to see you are getting the gripper and lower ratio crown wheel and pinion, should transform the car! Cheers" Be aware when ordering a Gripper LSD that the default specification is for off-road forest rallys and is therefore a 2-way 45/45 setup with a tonne of preload. A typical FWD setup is 1.5way 40/65. Also, if you want to retain the standard mechanically driven speedo tell them, as they often send out one without the speedo ring, which would be a pain going all the way to AUS. The ones with speedo ring are a little uneven out of sharp corners due to them having to use an asymetrical clutch pack. Ones without speedo drives are evenly packed as they don't have to narrow the clutch pack housing to suit. I have a gripper in my old gearbox and honestly, if it ever goes back in the car, it will be sent back to Gripper to be modified to 1.5way with perhaps 40/65 ramp angle and less preload, (personal choice on the preload).

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 10 Apr 2012 06:58:39 AM
	SSUK WROTE: " climberjoel WROTE: "nice work mick, and good to see you are getting the gripper and lower ratio crown wheel and pinion, should transform the car! Cheers" Be aware when ordering a Gripper LSD that the default specification is for off-road forest rallys and is therefore a 2-way 45/45 setup with a tonne of preload. A typical FWD setup is 1.5way 40/65. Also, if you want to retain the standard mechanically driven speedo tell them, as they often send out one without the speedo ring, which would be a pain going all the way to AUS. The ones with speedo ring are a little uneven out of sharp corners due to them having to use an asymetrical clutch pack. Ones without speedo drives are evenly packed as they don't have to narrow the clutch pack housing to suit. I have a gripper in my old gearbox and honestly, if it ever goes back in the car, it will be sent back to Gripper to be modified to 1.5way with perhaps 40/65 ramp angle and less preload, (personal choice on the preload). " Thanks for the advice, the order hasn't been filled yet, I will talk to Matt about it. Deff will have speedo ring! Does the standard amount of preload throw the car off when it transitions? ie coming out of corners etc. (on tarmac anyway) I assume you have a plate lsd in your 31v box? I've sent you a few emails, receiving them? :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 10 Apr 2012 06:59:43 AM
	climberjoel WROTE: "nice work mick, and good to see you are getting the gripper and lower ratio crown wheel and pinion, should transform the car! Cheers" Yep I need all the mechanical help I can get to match you :)

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 10 Apr 2012 06:40:14 PM
	Mickb WROTE: " SSUK WROTE: " climberjoel WROTE: "nice work mick, and good to see you are getting the gripper and lower ratio crown wheel and pinion, should transform the car! Cheers" Be aware when ordering a Gripper LSD that the default specification is for off-road forest rallys and is therefore a 2-way 45/45 setup with a tonne of preload. A typical FWD setup is 1.5way 40/65. Also, if you want to retain the standard mechanically driven speedo tell them, as they often send out one without the speedo ring, which would be a pain going all the way to AUS. The ones with speedo ring are a little uneven out of sharp corners due to them having to use an asymetrical clutch pack. Ones without speedo drives are evenly packed as they don't have to narrow the clutch pack housing to suit. I have a gripper in my old gearbox and honestly, if it ever goes back in the car, it will be sent back to Gripper to be modified to 1.5way with perhaps 40/65 ramp angle and less preload, (personal choice on the preload). " Thanks for the advice, the order hasn't been filled yet, I will talk to Matt about it. Deff will have speedo ring! Does the standard amount of preload throw the car off when it transitions? ie coming out of corners etc. (on tarmac anyway) I assume you have a plate lsd in your 31v box? I've sent you a few emails, receiving them? :)" Yeah, just got that mail, (not been checking much recently). I have the viscous LSD in there at the moment, so will see what that's like as a comparison before I do anything else. We're still in build, so it will be a while before I test things out. The Gripper LSD I have had a huge amount of preload and has always been a pain to drive on the road and yes it's very snappy when coming on and off the throttle, especially out of junctions, (it will easily rip the wheel out of your hands and send you into oncoming traffic if you aren't prepared for it!). On track it's very good however on the road it's pretty horrible with no PAS to be honest. I was still experimenting before the car was stripped down. I used the recomended Lodexol 80w140 oil and didn't get on with it at all, the diff was very chattery and harsh with it in on it's own and we lost a few bhp too. I now run Redline MT90, which is a 75w90 GL4, so oem spec with some added Redline friction modifier in it and it's a huge improvement. I find without any friction modifier it's very snappy and harsh, the friction modifier just smooths the transition out a little which helps a little out of corners. We also got back the missing power but it's still far from a progressive transition. Asdame on here also has one but has serviced his and converted it to 1.5way, so it would be great for him to post some feedback, as I know we both found the original diff spec pretty hardcore ;)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 11 Apr 2012 07:46:29 AM
	Cool, thanks for the tips. Surprised you don't run PAS, I have deff noticed the reduction in feel with it, but I would have thought the advantages outweigh that? I saw something from Asdame a while back saying how it kept loosening off the shaft bolts due to it chattering so much. Will be using Redline for sure, I have used a few of there products before with good results.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 27 Apr 2012 08:17:53 PM
	OK small update, back in Melbourne for the weekend, car has been on stands for weeks while I was away. Few bits and pieces turned up.. Nismo race exhaust - not a thing of beauty, I'm sure it will do the trick though. Swift helper springs - my rear springs would be loose by 30mm or so, not enough to drop out, but these mini springs will keep them in place. Power steering pump (thank Dens!) will replace it tomorrow.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Mon 14 May 2012 03:49:59 PM
	Roadworthy today, just rang the place. Suspension is considered too stiff for a road-car.. fail. What a load of shit!!

RBLUV » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Mon 14 May 2012 06:21:04 PM
	haha did you say come on mate its just a micra

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 04:35:28 PM
	Update of sorts.. Passed roadworthy, after days of hard work and half the purchase price of the LX spent, and as it happens I am moving to WA, but it is easy to transfer without RW I've heard. O/S valves are off the list, too much coin for what I am looking at getting from the car - ie money better spent elsewhere (trackdays etc) I am shipping all my furniture/other car over in a container to Perth, and being that I have 6 days with nowhere (or no furniture) to live, I am going to drive the micra over, should be a laugh. Swapping in the coilovers tonight, as the car has been sitting in roadworthy spec for 5 weeks since I have been interstate. Very keen to get the gearbox sorted as soon as I am over there, if anyone has recommendations for that kind of work in Perth I am all ears. Will be interesting to see the top speed / highway cruising speed with the 5.1 CWP installed. Any of the guys in Melbourne, I have a fair few spares that I would rather offload than take/throw, give me a call if you are around the next few days. Cheers.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 04:40:29 PM
	SSUK - as for the LSD, spoke with Matt in length, ended up getting gripper to sort it into a 1.5way that was preset for tarmac. Although in doing so loose the speedo drive capabilities, but that isn't such an issue. I will give you an update when installed.

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 06:54:40 PM
	Hope the perth move goes well Mick, and i'm sure the drive will be interesting! although I recommend you take ear plugs, makes the NVH like a normal car :) I'm really looking forward to seeing how the gripper and cwp turns out, good on you for going for it p.s. now you can do the QUIT Targa West ;)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 07:07:31 PM
	Thanks Joel, drive should be good, just got a new set of street tyres R1Rs on my backup wheels as the semis would be stuffed doing that trip. Gripper and cwp should be interesting, at least up to 120km/hr :) Targa west. I'll look it up!

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 07:33:54 PM
	my r1r's get chopped up from even street driving, they seem to angular/sharp edged - but they are grippy! I'm a little upset that you are moving to perth tho - makes meeting up at the track even harder!

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 07:38:41 PM
	Yeah I didn't think they would last that long, the tyre shop had a set from last month lying around, made it worthwhile. Haha yes I know, one day mate :)

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 10:07:19 PM
	Geez, you go from Brisbane to Melbounre now to Perth, hope it's work related and more money? But I want to see pics of this thing :)

oldboy40s » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 10:55:18 PM
	i like to be the first to welcome you to Perth, mate.

asdame » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 26 Jun 2012 11:51:38 PM
	hey Mick & SSUK I only just noticed this thread tday and shoulda known way back :/ soz anyway. yeah my gripper diff that matt humphris sent was originally a 2-way 45/45 single sided clutchpack with speedo and high preload. running PAS helps. when i first ran it, it was soo aggressive on road. cos of the offset clutchpack its kinda bias between left/right tight turns and will try to turn tighter into a corner when exiting a t-junc hard. steering much heavier. the ramp engagement was very much either 100% on or suddenly 0% off and was a shock if you slowly reduce torque midcorner, it would snap release to open-diff with a bang! running the suggested morris oil, when the plates slide it was embarrasingly loud chatter especially around london :/ the chatter was so loud and so violent it would gradually loosen the LH driveshaft nut like an impact drive and wreck the LH wheel bearing. so definately locktight those nuts. the chatter eventually weakened after afew trackdays and preload dropped to zero. thought it'd bedded in when in fact the old style brittle preload ring has completely shattered into many bits thus no preload and easier corner transition. check blog http://micra.org.uk/threads/pollymobiles-rebuild.35251/page-50 now the lsd has been rebuilt as a 1.5way 40/60 ramp with the new tougher preload ring and is so much better & consistant now. still using morris oil but there's no chatter at all, maybe the plates bedded in?

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 09:04:34 AM
	RTK WROTE: "Geez, you go from Brisbane to Melbounre now to Perth, hope it's work related and more money? But I want to see pics of this thing :)" Last 6 months I have been away from home (interstate), for just under 5 months. Yes work related, and a change is needed. I'll post some pics, not that there is much to see, later on today.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 09:05:04 AM
	oldboy40s WROTE: " i like to be the first to welcome you to Perth, mate." Thanks mate!

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 09:06:58 AM
	Asdame– thanks for the feedback, I will let you know how mine goes.

asdame » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 09:14:01 AM
	;)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 01:20:21 PM
	Upon inspection of the container, evo wont fit, micra will now be going in container.

OZChris » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 01:43:34 PM
	Mickb WROTE: "Upon inspection of the container, evo wont fit, micra will now be going in container. " Gee that's a shame :)

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 02:27:50 PM
	gay cunt moving to perth. not feeling the brisbanely love bro

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 05:51:40 PM
	OZChris WROTE: " Mickb WROTE: "Upon inspection of the container, evo wont fit, micra will now be going in container. " Gee that's a shame :)" Hah yes more comfort and fasts, twice the fuel.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Wed 27 Jun 2012 05:52:26 PM
	turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: "gay cunt moving to perth. not feeling the brisbanely love bro" I know man.

OZChris » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 29 Jun 2012 09:28:53 PM
	Did you end up taking a pic before closing the door to the container? :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 28 Jul 2012 07:22:51 PM
	OZChris WROTE: "Did you end up taking a pic before closing the door to the container? :)" No mate

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 28 Jul 2012 07:37:58 PM
	Minor update, haven't been doing too much on cars since moving, also trying not to spend too much coin until I have steady work coming in. Fitted rose-jointed trailing arms, control arm brace, fixed snapped rear swaybar mount, fitted solid front engine mount, and just stripped the engine bay of wiring/battery/non-essentials for a tuck and relocation. The trailing arms took a little bit of playing around, I was thinking the rear shocks were bottoming out (by the noise/feel of the rear end), it was simply the lack of flex (having no rubber mounts) on the trailing arms restricting almost any movement. Got them sorted but will need an alignment soon. Took the car for a decent drive (probably haven't put 100 kms on it since buying this one) was good to get it out of the garage and flog the shit out of it. Rear end feels very planted now, albiet noisy as hell with the rose-joints moving back and forth. Keen to get out and do a few events, any Perth micra owners gtting out and having a go?

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 28 Jul 2012 07:45:33 PM
	sounds good mick, have you got the gripper and 5.1 cwp in too? Interested to know how it goes

OZChris » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 28 Jul 2012 08:12:48 PM
	Hey Mick great to hear you are finally getting around in the Micra :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sun 29 Jul 2012 10:02:35 PM
	Joel - not as yet, slightly apprehensive about top speed with the cwp. Certainly need to get the worked head/cams in so that I can have a bit more hp. I'm going to a transmission shop tomorrow to see if they are keen..

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 14 Sep 2012 02:15:13 PM
	Slight update: Dropped the gearbox off to be rebuilt + LSD + CWP to be installed. At a guess with the CWP/15" wheels top would be about 160km/h. Should get there quick though!

OZChris » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 14 Sep 2012 02:42:23 PM
	Mick, time for some updated pics of the beast in the west :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 14 Sep 2012 05:23:31 PM
	Updated pics, nothing has changed. Should kick on into this weekend though, I'll see what I can do bud :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 14 Sep 2012 05:30:23 PM
	Just realised there is no photos of the car in this thread, will have to do something about that!

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Fri 14 Sep 2012 07:28:17 PM
	Agreed! More pics= more inspiration

Doom » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 15 Sep 2012 10:18:18 AM
	Pics or ban :)

OZChris » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sun 16 Sep 2012 09:33:28 PM
	Gentle reminder to post some pics :)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sat 20 Oct 2012 09:18:10 PM
	OZChris WROTE: "Gentle reminder to post some pics :)" Yeah sorry been busy as (plus the battery was flat when I went to bring it out for some photos) I had a half day off work this week which allowed me a little time on this - see pic Removed intake/exh/head New timing gear in. I also matched some OEM valves that suit what I need (slightly bigger, 2mm longer, etc) Head is at the shop being cleaned and skimmed. If I'm lucky I will spend a few hours on it tomorrow as well.
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sun 21 Oct 2012 01:32:58 AM
	Cool, nice to see some progress :) Our bottom end is now together. The rest should come together quite quickly now since everything has now arrived :) Ended up with a billet cam, as the OEM cast blanks did not have enough material to get the lift we wanted without compromising and reducing the base circle.
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Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sun 21 Oct 2012 08:19:36 AM
	Good to see some progress from you! That is why my valves are 2mm longer, to allow for a cut down base circle.

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 30 Oct 2012 08:11:35 PM
	Small Update, head is back at home, just doing a bit of prep with the carb manifold, nee to tap in some vac fittings o each runner.
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climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 30 Oct 2012 08:16:44 PM
	phoar - looks great Mick, keep up the good work!

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 30 Oct 2012 08:18:04 PM
	This shows the angle of the carbs to the head
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Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 30 Oct 2012 08:20:26 PM
	climberjoel WROTE: "phoar - looks great Mick, keep up the good work!" Thanks man, not far off really, just waiting on little bits and pieces to arrive. Vac distributor, catch can, etc.

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 30 Oct 2012 08:22:53 PM
	Should have heaps of room yeah? (Firewall to carbs)

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 30 Oct 2012 08:49:42 PM
	RTK WROTE: "Should have heaps of room yeah? (Firewall to carbs)" Yeah the runners/trumpets are all quite short, heaps of room.

woohoomobile » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 30 Oct 2012 10:19:40 PM
	animal!

OZChris » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 30 Oct 2012 10:53:17 PM
	Looks like great progress Mick :)

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 11 Dec 2012 09:15:24 PM
	how the build going mick - i need some inspiration ;) 5.1 and lsd in???

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Tue 11 Dec 2012 11:31:55 PM
	climberjoel WROTE: "how the build going mick - i need some inspiration ;) 5.1 and lsd in???" Hey mate, stalled currently, not far off really. Gb change hopefully this weekend if time allows. (I may have said that before though) I see you got an innovate kit, they are a good bit of gear.

schmykel » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sun 01 Feb 2015 03:28:54 PM
	thread revival! anything happening with this build? :-)

AB-NRML » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: MickB Micra	Sun 01 Feb 2015 08:51:49 PM
	I hope mickbbb gets into another micra but unfortunately but fortunately for me i have about half the parts listed in micks first post on this thread. As well as the bike carbs and manifold. I've got a few other things on the go so i won't be making a build thread anytime soon but i may in the future.