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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since:  Posts: |
another N/A project :) |
Wed 27 Apr 2011 07:51:27 AM |
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here,s mine, a CGA crank and rods in a CG10 block
2 headgaskets because the pistons stick out the block a mm or so a custom plenum grafted onto a cut CGA inlet mani and a side mounted GA16 throttlebody |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 27 Apr 2011 07:52:26 AM |
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partbuilt mani
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1275 » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:  |
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Wed 27 Apr 2011 06:16:49 PM |
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Interesting Frank, the backyard Micra thread springs to mind :) not like Erik's super clean workshop build (did anyone ever find out what happened to him?)
Manifold looks interesting, I look forward to seeing more as you progress. |
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Greo » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 27 Apr 2011 06:54:13 PM |
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I have been thinking tge same thing. I am so keen to see progress on eric's maxi micra. As well as your engine build.
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 28 Apr 2011 12:57:13 AM |
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yes we miss erik,s enthusiasm eh :( perhaps someone upset him ?
just got the mani back from the local tig welder guy (£30 with some 1mm steel sheet for the plenum) steel that i can diy weld lol |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 28 Apr 2011 06:37:43 AM |
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and its not really a build thread tbh, the engine was fitted last week (more a development thread lol)
the GA 16 t/b is fitted to the stock manifold at the mo, and here,s a throttle response vid for comparison, before and after for when the modded one is fitted (the roar is from the intake, which runs through the baulkhead atm :) ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwQ-9VHiWWI |
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1275 » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 28 Apr 2011 06:56:13 AM |
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Blimey have you fitted a motorbike engine? clearly a nice light flywheel in there
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 28 Apr 2011 07:06:23 AM |
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1275 WROTE: clearly a nice light flywheel in there " aye :) skimmed and drilled |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 29 Apr 2011 03:26:21 AM |
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progress pics :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 29 Apr 2011 03:27:02 AM |
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testin :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Sat 30 Apr 2011 05:06:45 AM |
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it was off the scale lean with the CG t/b, and barely drivable with the GA t/b (anything over 1/4 throttle, it held back really bad), so i guess its gulping more air :)
QG engines have similar coilpacks as CGA,s, so hopefully the QG15/18 injectors will fit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sex63NZw-VA |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 05 May 2011 12:04:41 AM |
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frank2 WROTE: "it was off the scale lean, so hopefully the QG15/18 injectors will fit " sound as a pound :) (QG18,s) |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 05 May 2011 10:53:35 AM |
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one of a kind frank...
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Fri 06 May 2011 12:48:41 AM |
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mycra WROTE: "one of a kind frank..." me, or the mani mycra ? the bigger injectors have done the trick anyway :D 100% off the scale rich at WOT (tho with the limits of the narrowband lambda i dont know how rich, so i may need to drop the fuel pressure a tad ?) and fully closed loop at anything other than WOT or lift :) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Sun 22 May 2011 06:28:40 AM |
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here,s the lambda voltage showing closed loop (fuctuating between .3v t0 .7v at cruise) then off the scale rich when floored (.9v+) then closed injectors on lift (0v)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0sfY4dVcqM we,ve now knocked that second from the 0 to 60 at long last, but have another 3 weeks till the next RWYB :( these QG injectors are rated at 211 cc @ 3 bar, 14.5 ohms apparently, and i,m gonna try some softer springs in the fuel p/r/v, to give me some idea "how rich" its running at WOT |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 24 May 2011 10:07:54 PM |
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done a test rig for the p/r/v :)
the stock one measures 44psi (as it should) and the adjustable one "blew off" at 40psi (stock p/r/v spring but under less pressure) and road tests show the lambda voltage creeping down at high rpm with the 40 psi one in. which proves that the stock one is,nt OTT (i might even try a tad more pressure than stock :D ) |
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will930 » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 25 May 2011 02:08:08 AM |
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crazy!!!!!!!!1 wanna make me one frank!
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Wed 25 May 2011 03:36:44 AM |
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i,ve still gotta make me one will (that one is with its new owner)
i,m running with stock a CGA mani atm, with a GA16 t/b and the red QG injectors |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 25 May 2011 08:08:36 AM |
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frank2 WROTE: " mycra WROTE: "one of a kind frank..." me, or the mani mycra ? the bigger injectors have done the trick anyway :D 100% off the scale rich at WOT (tho with the limits of the narrowband lambda i dont know how rich, so i may need to drop the fuel pressure a tad ?) and fully closed loop at anything other than WOT or lift :)" you and everything else you do....lol |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Thu 26 May 2011 10:42:59 PM |
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we,re running with a different CGA inlet mani now, with the GA t/b turned 180 deg.
so now the GA t/b is using its own idle control system instead of the "cut-off" remote CG i/c/v that i was using |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 08 Jun 2011 06:35:32 AM |
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currently running a QG throttlebody with a CG maf mounted in the air filterbox :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 08 Jun 2011 06:37:54 AM |
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and 135/13,s fitted to the rear, in readyness for the dragstrip on sunday :)
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Rudy » CMF Member Hunter Valley mob 0400767960 Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Wed 08 Jun 2011 09:25:00 AM |
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Hi Frank
make sure you get some good video footage, maybe a couple of mates equiped with video capability and make a compilation, luv your work, car looks good, good luck on sunday ..Rudy |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Thu 09 Jun 2011 01:05:55 AM |
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thanks rudy :)
i will have my helmet cam running hopefully, but i,ve just had my damn finger on the mic hole again lol while trying to vid a 0 to 60 :( i was trying to show a 10 sec run while keeping it below 4k rpm, to show that the 260/10mm inlet cam had,nt sacrificed any lowdown grunt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS4azbiQnrM |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 12 Jun 2011 07:14:19 AM |
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well happy with the 15.7 second run today :)
minimal strippage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlQgHFhibPI and beat this one by default lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-m9X3iVgKg  |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 13 Jun 2011 07:43:49 AM |
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LowMicra WROTE: "they should run cars that are of the similar size not a like they did, big V8 vs. a little 4cyl " my 3rd run was even more missmatched lol, 145mph ! (damn sound did,nt work again tho) http://www.youtube.com/user/aelknarf#p/a/u/2/ugo6jqf7S54 |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 13 Jun 2011 10:31:35 PM |
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piper exhaust cam installed :) 60mm SR16 throttlebody is next on the list
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 20 Jun 2011 07:21:05 AM |
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50mm s/s middle and rear fitted :)
and a run at santa pod today too :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4XWLqBq18Y |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 20 Jun 2011 05:15:03 PM |
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LowMicra WROTE: "Good to see it's not another car pushing 500+hp and it's something that is in the same frame as the micra" it was my-mate asdame low :) here,s the specsheet from a k11 that was doing 13,s (hyabusa rods eh :o ) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 20 Jun 2011 05:44:56 PM |
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LowMicra WROTE: would love a pic of the engine bay" hooded fired some pics up on here low http://www.micra.org.uk/threads/45320-Pic-s-from-Santa-Pod-19th-June-2011 |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Fri 24 Jun 2011 06:58:54 AM |
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frank2 WROTE: it was my-mate asdame low :) " and here,s the perspective from inside pauls car, bad clutch slip in 4th eh (abrasive helix paddle plate on that poor jun f/w :o ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5m4SjF8rM |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Sun 26 Jun 2011 10:43:39 PM |
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sr20 t/b (centre) 2 of the boltholes line up ok, probably knockup an adapter plate tho eh
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 30 Jun 2011 06:32:36 AM |
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SR20 throttlebody fitted :)
i,ve gotta try and iron out some low throttle a/f/r anomalies tho (probably because a 60mm butterfly does,nt need opening as far as a 45mm one at cruise eh) |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Thu 30 Jun 2011 11:27:10 AM |
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frank im have trouble with mine sr20 tb... runs almost perfect tuned but at cold, wont start unless give it 10% throttle and hold rev after for a min or 2...then would hold idle without stalling. atm idle is set to 1100rpm
any ideas? :) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Thu 30 Jun 2011 05:08:54 PM |
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mycra WROTE: "frank im have trouble with mine sr20 tb... runs almost perfect tuned but at cold, wont start unless give it 10% throttle and hold rev after for a min or 2...then would hold idle without stalling. atm idle is set to 1100rpm any ideas? :)" have you cut the coldstart mech off like mine mycra ? |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 30 Jun 2011 05:34:49 PM |
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coldstart mech...you mean the coolent sensor? no went back to stock on that one....
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Thu 30 Jun 2011 09:27:50 PM |
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no mate, on mine was a waxstat coldstart mechanism, and without that the idle from cold is very low
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Fri 01 Jul 2011 09:12:26 AM |
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right thought so.... my sr20 tb didnt come with it... coolent inlet and out straight through... what model did you get ur t/b.
Thanks Frank :) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 01 Jul 2011 04:23:43 PM |
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mycra WROTE: "right thought so.... my sr20 tb didnt come with it... coolent inlet and out straight through... what model did you get ur t/b. Thanks Frank :)" i,m not sure mate, the almera guy was going to give me an SR16 one, but that was at his engine builder,s, he just said here,s an SR20 one. i had this black leather mera gti wheel off him too :) (straight fit, functioning airbag light and horn) |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 01 Jul 2011 04:33:47 PM |
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hahaha fair enough... figured its a s14-> sr20...
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 01 Jul 2011 04:35:17 PM |
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hahaha fair enough... figured its a s14-> sr20... im so glad there's a solution..would really piss me off the way its going now..
with the sr20 t/b you find dead spots in mid range? |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 01 Jul 2011 04:43:42 PM |
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mycra WROTE: "hahaha fair enough... figured its a s14-> sr20... im so glad there's a solution..would really piss me off the way its going now.. with the sr20 t/b you find dead spots in mid range?" no its pulling very strongly throughout mycra, off the scale rich at WOT all the way to the limiter (it just slips out of closed loop at very very light throttle cruise) mine,s a stock ecu tho eh, what management is yours running ? |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Fri 01 Jul 2011 05:40:42 PM |
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frank2 WROTE: (it just slips out of closed loop at very very light throttle cruise) " edit, it was,nt as bad yesterday and i,ve just dropped my misses to work, and the closed looping is working impeccably now :). damn clever things these ecu,s ! time for another visit to the 1/4 mile |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 04 Jul 2011 08:44:07 AM |
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yeah id say mine is fine at times...if you have it in the right rev range.. just got it back last week. feel a dead spot at 2200 suspecting old sr20 tps... it running march nismo ecu with nistune daughter board.
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 04 Jul 2011 07:13:08 PM |
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mycra WROTE: "yeah id say mine is fine at times...if you have it in the right rev range.. just got it back last week. feel a dead spot at 2200 suspecting old sr20 tps... it running march nismo ecu with nistune daughter board. " i,ve always found that aftermarket induction kits tend to create a flatspot low down mycra, and have got on better with the ukdm GA16 airbox (tho you lose the induction roar) |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 05 Jul 2011 09:32:37 AM |
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yeah...i agree. atm my air box isnt set up right yet, due to the added afm..hence why i went cda they are designed to maintain constant pressure. and quieter too
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 07 Jul 2011 04:21:17 AM |
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frank2 WROTE: no its pulling very strongly throughout mycra, off the scale rich at WOT all the way to the limiter " like so :) (closed looping @ cruise, then acceleration enrichment when booted) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxIKR5OjVcA |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 07 Jul 2011 09:04:53 AM |
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haha nice... it managed to track down that t/b btw..
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 11 Jul 2011 09:15:02 PM |
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here,s a vid of a 350z catching me 10 secs before the checkered flag/slowdown lap at donington yesterday (fast forward 15 mins 40 secs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KDnQY2kSic who needs wank factor coilovers when you can get a handling stance like that with bog standard matiz suspension eh :d |
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1275 » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 11 Jul 2011 10:35:21 PM |
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Amazing Frank, that rear track looks so wide, and it looked right at home on the track with those cars.
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 12 Jul 2011 04:14:43 PM |
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frank specs on the rear axle......please :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 12 Jul 2011 04:27:51 PM |
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thanks 1275 :) and drum axle with matiz rear springs and stock shockers with the topmount washer welded lower down and a spacer above to suit, and removed swaybar and reversed stock 14" steelies (ET 0)
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 12 Jul 2011 04:44:58 PM |
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stock camber or wheel spacers? why removed swaybar?...is the matiz setup that stiff...
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 12 Jul 2011 05:11:55 PM |
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mycra WROTE: "stock camber or wheel spacers? why removed swaybar?...is the matiz setup that stiff... " the rear camber was on the blue car mycra, and the swaybar was removed on a cutting session along with some bodywork and brackets etc. and the rear is a little too stiff really, the fronts were too soft and high with the stock matiz 11 coils, we,re down to 7.5 coils atm, which gives only 10mm of preload and makes them quite firm. and no spacers :) |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 13 Jul 2011 09:37:15 AM |
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That rear looked nice...whatever you did lol
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 13 Jul 2011 07:37:18 PM |
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mycra WROTE: "That rear looked nice...whatever you did lol " ta :) yet another N/A project under way lol (just a spare engine really) a japspec CG13 from an auto march G# thingy. the crankpins look like they,ve only done 50 miles, so its having 1.0 pistons fitted today. here,s the contraption i use to remove and refit the wristpins :) |
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1275 » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 13 Jul 2011 11:35:16 PM |
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Looks like a set from one of the mad max films :)
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 14 Jul 2011 09:28:15 AM |
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SAW 6
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 18 Jul 2011 11:34:19 AM |
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frank i pm you.
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 25 Jul 2011 07:03:40 AM |
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mycra WROTE: "frank i pm you." i,m still looking mate :) and the SR20 t/b and piper exhaust cam have helped to shave another .3 secs off my previous 1/4 mile pb :) http://www.youtube.com/user/aelknarf#p/a/u/0/1wr8PRaY3OI |
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mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Mon 25 Jul 2011 10:51:30 PM |
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haha nice....mine's coming together...slowly.
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Sat 30 Jul 2011 05:05:34 AM |
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gonna try and get the f/w and clutch assy down to 4kg,s and fit a 1.0 crank pulley too :)
cvt driveplate with a kart brakedisc welded on from behind, as you can see its about a 1/4 the weight of a coilpack one heres the throttle response with the current lightened and drilled 3.5 kg fly and 2.5 kg clutch assy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GJqYyvnAG0 |
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k11_facelift » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Sun 31 Jul 2011 02:04:47 AM |
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Very impressive, any videos of this diy flywheel in action Frank?
Matt. |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Sun 31 Jul 2011 06:06:35 AM |
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uk_facelift WROTE: "Very impressive, any videos of this diy flywheel in action Frank? Matt." cheers matt :) this one wont be fitted till i try out the high comp 1275 japspec engine after the hillclimb event i,m hoping it,ll give me a throttle response akin to a busa :) |
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 02 Aug 2011 03:09:39 AM |
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Crikey, that's one mental bit of fabrication there Frank ;)
What does that lot tip the scales at now fully assembled? |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 02 Aug 2011 06:16:01 AM |
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SSUK WROTE: "Crikey, that's one mental bit of fabrication there Frank ;) What does that lot tip the scales at now fully assembled?" i cant get it below 5kg tbh dave :( |
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 02 Aug 2011 06:40:00 PM |
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That's ruddy light. The only way to get it lower would be to opt for extremely expensive options such as a Tilton 140mm clutch, (1.8kgs), but that would make it a TOTAL pita to drive and go against your overall theme. 140mm unsprung cerametallic or sintered driveplate = FAIL on anything other than a track and the rebuild intervals would suck too.
We're at 5.8kgs as a whole assembly for the next build and happy with that, (currently 9.1kg). |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:14:14 PM |
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hmmm, competition eh :)
mine,s balanced and fitted now, and ready to.......... "drop in" lol :D |
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climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 04 Aug 2011 06:47:11 AM |
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hahaha awesome pic frank!
I really appreciate all the k11 knowledge ive picked up from reading your posts, all the best with the new engine! p.s. do you know roughly how many times you've 'dropped' a cg13 into a micra? |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Thu 04 Aug 2011 07:08:10 AM |
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:D ta joel
this one will probably be sold once i have tested it out for oil consumption, i,ve been stretching the oil control rings on the engine rebuilds recently, (because they tend to get a bit tired/unspringy) and this 1311 one drinks no oil at all, so hopefully the japspec one will be the same we,re probably approaching double figures on the engine changes now eh ! and getting the engine waist height was a struggle, but once you,ve bearhugged it, you can walk around with ease lol |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 09 Aug 2011 12:57:05 AM |
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we trimmed some of the front arches away the other week
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
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Tue 09 Aug 2011 12:58:02 AM |
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and "reworked" the rears today too
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Fri 12 Aug 2011 06:27:37 AM |
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so now the r/arches are higher i can drop it till the p/rod is near horizontal (and still have a nice gap all around the wheels)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Fri 12 Aug 2011 06:28:59 AM |
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had to fit some shorter stock corsa rear shocks tho (captive springs FTW :) )
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k11_facelift » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sat 13 Aug 2011 09:22:36 PM |
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Any pics of the full car frank? Will be nearly as low as me :O
And have you covered all other parts, struts, panhard rod, as well as the underbody with your shutz mix? Do you recommend to do the same, as I'm about to redo my chassis rails, left most of the existing stuff on a speedbump somewhere:) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 14 Aug 2011 02:25:05 AM |
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not as low as yours matt no :) i wanted it lower but with equal archgap all around (hence cutting and reworking the arches)
and i covered any metal part that was scabby basically mate (floor, brakepipes axle etc) |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 14 Aug 2011 02:26:50 AM |
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been doing some more wheels too :)
et minus 5 this time (for a bit more poke) |
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 14 Aug 2011 05:22:51 PM |
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More poke :oO Woo!
Oh incidentally you were spot on with the stock wheels, 13x5.0 ET45. I must have remembered the 45 part and remembered it as 4.5. Grey hair penetrating the brain Ho-hum! Poke wise, what do you think would be a safe number on a 13x7 on stock unmodified arches Frank? We're currently on ET37 i think...... |
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k11_facelift » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 14 Aug 2011 10:55:39 PM |
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That is alot of dish, they're going to look pretty sweet when done.
Ok ta, I'm just going to stick to chassis rails, floor and sills I think, do the rest next year. Notice you've colour-coded the front bumper now, you colour-coding the rear and de bump stripping the sides too? And with those new rims your going to have the looks as well as the power. |
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Grev » CMF Member Sunnybank Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 14 Aug 2011 11:07:47 PM |
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The steel wheels are nice, might need to get a set!
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 14 Aug 2011 11:20:06 PM |
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uk_facelift WROTE: "That is alot of dish, they're going to look pretty sweet when done. Ok ta, I'm just going to stick to chassis rails, floor and sills I think, do the rest next year. Notice you've colour-coded the front bumper now, you colour-coding the rear and de bump stripping the sides too? And with those new rims your going to have the looks as well as the power." thats a front (same et10) and rear (et-5 only 5mm more dish than before) in the pic matt, so little changed tbh and the bumper insert will be blacked again, i,m still blowing in the repairs from when it was written off by the previous owner lol |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 15 Aug 2011 12:08:47 AM |
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SSUK WROTE: "More poke :oO Woo! Oh incidentally you were spot on with the stock wheels, 13x5.0 ET45. I must have remembered the 45 part and remembered it as 4.5. Grey hair penetrating the brain Ho-hum! Poke wise, what do you think would be a safe number on a 13x7 on stock unmodified arches Frank? We're currently on ET37 i think......" i dont know what you would get away with tbh SSUK, my aches have been bashed upwards and folded/doubled back so they have a bit more clearance now (original arch was where the arrow is pointing to) |
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 15 Aug 2011 01:32:38 AM |
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We'll probably stick close to what we have considering we like to corner pretty hard and will be playing around with ride heights this time as well as switching to a semi-slick tyre on track.
Saying that it would be nice to run say an ET37 up front and maybe an ET20 on the rear to even up the rear track with the front. Will have to double check clearances when I'm next in the UK. |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Thu 18 Aug 2011 05:34:50 AM |
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wheels finished, and car now ready for sunday,s hillclimb :)
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1275 » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Thu 18 Aug 2011 05:41:06 AM |
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Looks great Frank, very tastefully done wheels.
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 22 Aug 2011 06:17:35 AM |
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1275 WROTE: "Looks great Frank, very tastefully done wheels." thanks 1275 :) the hillclimb was a white knuckle ride :O http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLrn5JNkO08&feature=player_embedded |
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niiCk » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 22 Aug 2011 01:38:15 PM |
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nice work Frank, the wheels look awesome and that video is awesome too! lol
how do you rate the suspension now? out of 10? (10 being excellent) i love the height you got out of the suspension setup, and it looks to have decent handling |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 22 Aug 2011 04:13:26 PM |
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thanks nick :) i,ve only driven the ebay corsa coilies so cant compare my setup really, but it seems to handle pretty good considering there are no swaybars fitted.
the track surface at prescott is a bit like a carpark (hence the mad tyresqueal eh) but the cut and reworked k11 rear springs are too stiff for my liking, and the uncut matiz rears will be refitted now that this years trackdays are over |
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Akinari » CMF Member Iloilo Philippines Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 22 Aug 2011 05:51:30 PM |
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@frank
hi mate! are your cam timing still the same as your old setup? shaved dowel and advanced intake cams and stock timing on the exhaust cams? ..also whats your current ignition timing? Aki |
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niiCk » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 22 Aug 2011 07:23:25 PM |
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frank2 WROTE: "thanks nick :) i,ve only driven the ebay corsa coilies so cant compare my setup really, but it seems to handle pretty good considering there are no swaybars fitted. the track surface at prescott is a bit like a carpark (hence the mad tyresqueal eh) but the cut and reworked k11 rear springs are too stiff for my liking, and the uncut matiz rears will be refitted now that this years trackdays are over" so youre saying that youve only driven on the ebay corsa coilovers? woudl you say that your setup handles great but can still keep the comfort for daily basis? also, would the matiz rears give the similar drop? or will the rear sit higher? are the front matiz shocks and springs soft like the OEM k11 shocks and springs or are they abit stiffer? i need something thats abit stiffer than the OEM k11 suspension.. |
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climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 22 Aug 2011 09:17:46 PM |
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cool vid frank
The track looks sweet and your k11 sure pulls out of the hairpin well! |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 22 Aug 2011 11:09:35 PM |
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cheers guys :)
the cams are timed so that all 4 valves are open nearly 1mm @tdc aki, and yes, filed dowels. ign timing is about stock the stiffness will largely depend on the length/ number of coils of the spring nick, if the 8 coil stock one in the pic was rated at "say" 5kg, the 5 coil shortened one will rate at about 8kg believe it or not ! so the stock 11 coil front matiz setup is as soft as stock, mine is down to 8 coils now iirc and quite firm |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Tue 23 Aug 2011 07:54:23 PM |
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1311 out and 1275 in :)
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Tue 23 Aug 2011 08:05:10 PM |
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LowMicra WROTE: "why yet another swap ??" i need to test that 1.0 piston japspec engine and 2.5kg flywheel low :) (pay attention at the back there :p ) |
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Akinari » CMF Member Iloilo Philippines Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Tue 23 Aug 2011 08:25:56 PM |
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thnx for the info frank.
cheers! Aki |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Wed 24 Aug 2011 05:17:39 PM |
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its purely for acceleration purposes low, and its not a lot different tbh, tho it reassuringly constructed from steel and not mainly cast iron eh :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43mMdvAOZE thread continued here http://www.micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=69926 |
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1275 » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 11 Nov 2012 10:29:30 PM |
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frank2 WROTE: "been doing some more wheels too :) et minus 5 this time (for a bit more poke)  " I take it you weld on a thin band of steel here? |
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Sun 11 Nov 2012 11:24:50 PM |
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1275 WROTE: I take it you weld on a thin band of steel here? " no, just filler in the bead channel :) |
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1275 » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts: |
Re: another N/A project :) |
Mon 12 Nov 2012 01:58:41 AM |
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Ah ha, right that's easier, I always wondered how you got your reverse wheels looking so clean and simple. Ta
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