new NA project started - Cisco's Micra Files

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 03:54:58 PM
	with the forged engine for the forced micra in the process of being built, tmrs and i have commenced another project - this time a naturally aspirated weapon.. thus far, this is what's already in/on, and what bits have been amassed for the job... installed/done: TEIN Sports Spec Driving Master Type HA Coilovers Aspect extractors Custom 2" Mandrel bend exhaust with Kustom Bitz Performance Weaponry High Flow Race Cats Catalytic Converter and Roxy Semi Titanium Muffler Whiteline Front & Rear Swaybars, Panhard Rod, Drop Links, Castor Kit & Camber Bolts JIC Lower Control Arm Brace Sard FPR Greddy Oil Catch Can Volk GR-N 15X6.5" rims (powdercoated black) with Advan 195/50 Semi Slicks 15mm Billet spacers on the front Recaro Evo 8 seats on Bride rails JDM Tail Lights and Depo Blk Headlights/Clear indicators (will be swapped for smoked) Rear wiper removed ABS & A/C removed Front and rear guards rolled and flared Windows tinted sexily Here's what's to go in... Hi-comp Japanese built CG13 (revs to 9000rpm) - CG10 pistons, bore/hone, port polish, head skimmed with JUN titanium valve retainers, Nismo valve springs, Nismo metal head gasket, Aspect camshafts (in. 256, ex. 264), Mulholland Adjustable Cam Gears RS5F31V K10 SuperTurbo Gearbox with Nismo RS5F31V shafts Keihin FCR39 Carb Kit Nismo Clutch JUN 3.6kg flywheel Autronic SMC & 500R with ignition sensor setup and coils Mulholland radiator, thermostat and lightweight water pump pulley Billion Silicone hoses Trust S13 Oil Cooler Kit (full JDM yo! - haha) Humphris Rear Adjustable Trailing Arms Front Tensioners B-Crews Engine Brace Power Steer Cusco Safety21 6-point cage Complete Nismo bush set Gti-r front brakes Defi din mount unit & sensors C's short shifter Odyssey battery (relocated to under passenger seat) JDM front bar & spoiler (w/LED)+Nismo grille, front/rear lip will continue to update on the progress as the saga unfolds here's what she looks like presently... feedback most welcome
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 04:18:03 PM
	teins came from Japan Low... and as far as I know, those driving masters are on the rare side - u can get the wagon and lightweight masters easily and relatively cheaply though (but not as good).. mulholland parts are organised myself (via contact) in Japan 'ey... same deal with aspect stuff TEIN on yahoo now: http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h148466617

nsm » CMF Member sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 04:25:57 PM
	Is that the super s ????

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 04:27:05 PM
	yeah Nick, it is mate

nsm » CMF Member sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 05:45:35 PM
	Bloody looks good....!!!!!!

alexzaki1986 » CMF Member Ljubljana Slovenia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 05:47:19 PM
	I love it. Love the sleeper look! Greetings from Slovenia, Alex

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 06:35:02 PM
	cheers for that nick and alex! = ) might be lucky Low, but easy access to jap parts is a killer on the hip pocket!?! bahaha

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 06:43:48 PM
	if you want shit Low, let me know, and i can get prices for you...

1300cc » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 06:49:57 PM
	whats aspect extractors?

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 06:52:46 PM
	these 1300cc
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sikK11 » CMF Member Darwin Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 08:10:19 PM
	Those parts alone would be bear on 10k if not more. This will be one expensive build but worth it in the end.

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 08:25:57 PM
	very impressive spec list there kovert :o (at the risk of being pedantic tho, they,re 1.3 rods/1.0 pistons ?)

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 08:30:37 PM
	thanks frank... original post edited accordingly...

Mimz » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 08:43:03 PM
	"Hi-comp Japanese built CG13 (revs to 9000rpm) - CG10 pistons, bore/hone, port polish, head skimmed with JUN titanium valve retainers, Nismo valve springs, Nismo metal head gasket, Aspect camshafts (in. 256, ex. 264)" Standard rods? If so whats the CR u get?

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 08:49:34 PM
	Mimz WROTE: ""Hi-comp Japanese built CG10 pistons Standard rods? If so whats the CR u get?" i got it to 12:1 on some online C/R calculators

Mimz » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 08:54:31 PM
	Hey frank thats with standard cg10 pistons and cg13 rods, standard gasket and no decking?

1300cc » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 09:00:32 PM
	kovert.k11 WROTE: "these 1300cc " aspect extractors guessing this wont clear the a/c or can it be modified....

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 09:03:44 PM
	Mimz WROTE: "Hey frank thats with standard cg10 pistons and cg13 rods, standard gasket and no decking?" yes mimz, thats what,s in my red car (you need 12:1 with the 260 deg cams really eh)

Mimz » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 09:04:42 PM
	hey kovert show us some nice engine pics :P

Mimz » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 09:09:43 PM
	CR 12:1 thats 98+ octance fuel and a good tune or bye bye engine..u running quad bodies? or standard with it?

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 09:47:36 PM
	Mimz WROTE: "CR 12:1 thats 98+ octance fuel and a good tune or bye bye engine..u running quad bodies? or standard with it?" with the 260 cams the inlet is,nt closing till about 60 deg abdc, so its only "compressing" for the last 63mm of stroke really eh, so unleaded runs fine in mine

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 09:51:11 PM
	that's a long distance client-mastercraftsman relationship you got going on there...

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 10:01:11 PM
	frank's spot on as per usual... compression ratio figures given to me by the guys in japan that built this engine was 12:1 @1300c - those aspect extractors will clear A/C by the looks of them @mimz - will get some pics as the build progresses @fred - true mate, but you know it's worth the effort @low - safety21 cage from japan

jcmicra » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 10:52:25 PM
	wat happened to your turbo kit?? for sale?? :D decided to keep mine.. lol

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 05 Dec 2010 11:00:04 PM
	nah jc - still got the forced micra champ... gonna keep that thing for a while, but in the meantime, got this NA project started

jcmicra » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 06 Dec 2010 07:37:05 AM
	^ LOL your the new TMRS thread needs more pics of both your cars :) and start a build thread :D

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 06 Dec 2010 10:42:55 AM
	Mimz WROTE: Hi-comp Japanese built CG13 (revs to 9000rpm) - CG10 pistons, bore/hone, port polish, head skimmed with JUN titanium valve retainers, Nismo valve springs, Nismo metal head gasket, Aspect camshafts (in. 256, ex. 264)" A 256/264 cam from Aspect in a motor like that seems a bit tame....

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 06 Dec 2010 12:51:15 PM
	i do have 272 cams sitting here that are a consideration

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 06 Dec 2010 04:18:05 PM
	looks like a great project, good luck with it and keep us posted! Sorry if its a dumb question but why do you need an aftermarket ecu if you are running carbs? p.s. that cat converter is quite the mouthfull :)

mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 06 Dec 2010 10:03:23 PM
	Holy shit...you dont mess about with that car do you?... those parts are worth a shit load man..that jap cg13 even stock is already strong enough not to mention all that going in...dangerous dude.

ndxxx » CMF Member lismore Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 10 Dec 2010 06:48:10 AM
	more pics or ban :P

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 10 Dec 2010 10:09:59 AM
	lol... there's no money left for a camera?

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 10 Dec 2010 10:31:41 AM
	lmao@fred... i'll try and get tmrs to take some pics as the build progresses.. roll cage is going in first... and to anyone considering a safety 21 cage, i've been told that it's not the best cage, and lacks significant bracing - more of a cage for show... hopefully we can introduce some more bracing and strength into its structure

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 10 Dec 2010 12:33:35 PM
	cool

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 16 Apr 2011 10:08:31 PM
	update time... few dramas involving those damn QLD floods from early on this year: the warehouse where the couriers had the engine and gearbox stored was completely and totally inundated, so that was pretty fucked... just meant that both the engine and gearbox had to be disassembled and cleaned out thoroughly - but those bad boys were sorted and the fun could commence... a few additions have been included in the parts/specs list too... Rear interior stripped out and Cusco roll cage went in - has had side intrusion bars added to it for increased structural rigidity; also put a Miracle Bar in the back (which is an absolute bitch to install so i've been told)... Custom power steering setup with high pressure hose & power steering returns, low pressure @ 10+16mm Hi-comp Japanese built CG13 installed Mulholland radiator in Modify RS5F31V bellhousing/machine/ modify rear mount & install Install FCR carburettor to engine, modify water pipe to suit Modify and fit oil cooler + modify bumper, radiator support and lines to fit/machine block to clear oil cooler to block sandwich plate Install C's Short Shifter Kit Install Humphris Rear Adjustable Trailing Arms Install JUN flywheel/trigger disc/clutch disc + pressure plate (heavily modified carbon clutch disc used) Modify alternator harness/starter cable/starter solenoid/reverse switch Autronic SMC + 500R CDI wired in and installed in custom ECU/CDI box mount Ditched the Nardi steering wheel for something more appropriate - sexy as Key's Racing 325mm Buckskin thing. Got some black indicators to keep the aesthetics Have also decided to install a triple gauge pod with Defi Intake Manifold Pressure, Exhaust Temp and Tachometer GTIR Brake calipers will get a cleanup and paint, and DBA slotted rotors and EBC Greenstuff pads used, along with Goodridge Braided lines Got some ridiculously expensive Bluege checker floormats for that extra JDM as fuck look... lmao Just waiting on Nology ignition coils from the US and we should be nearly good to go... will be a fun fucker of a car when she's done!...will post some pix as soon as TMRS steals his folk's cam to hook me up...

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 17 Apr 2011 10:29:51 AM
	Is this running yet??

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 17 Apr 2011 11:52:00 AM
	not yet mick... but close to it mate.. once it's running, the focus will shift from go to show - whereby the engine bay will get that special tmrs touch and made to look hot shit

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 17 Apr 2011 12:38:22 PM
	that's the idea Low... forgot these extras: Aspect Aluminum lower arm bushes and this crazy Aspect "Q Magic Pipe" http://aspectk11.blog26.fc2.com/blog-entry-133.html whether or not is does what Aspect claims it will is soon to be discovered! lol

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 17 Apr 2011 05:07:27 PM
	kovert.k11 WROTE: "that's the idea Low... forgot these extras: Aspect Aluminum lower arm bushes and this crazy Aspect "Q Magic Pipe" http://aspectk11.blog26.fc2.com/blog-entry-133.html whether or not is does what Aspect claims it will is soon to be discovered! lol" Not sure what aspect is saying there.. it is just a breather yeah?

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 17 Apr 2011 05:38:57 PM
	something like that mick - pretty sure it's like a 1-way valve or similar

nissank11 » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 17 Apr 2011 06:05:19 PM
	Nice build mate! Im sure it'll go fast!

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 17 Apr 2011 07:17:09 PM
	cheers nissank11...

mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 18 Apr 2011 09:41:57 PM
	dude....monster killer not enough?? lol

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 19 Apr 2011 05:13:52 PM
	mycra WROTE: "dude....monster killer not enough?? lol" c'mon mycra... do i really need to answer that mate? lol

mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 20 Apr 2011 11:38:53 AM
	hahahaha just teasing you..lol

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 24 Apr 2011 01:02:55 PM
	ok... so fcr requires fuel setup to be altered to accommodate the fact that the carbs need fuck all fuel pressure.. seems the dude in japan i bought the fcr kit from was using the stock efi fueling setup with bodge return to keep the fuel pressure down.. we on the other hand, are gonna do shit proper - so stock fuel pump will stay, but a surge tank will be mounted under the car... sard fpr and turbosmart gauge gone... speedflow hoses all the way for the fuel lines and engine bay. greddy oil catch can & aspect magic pipe have been ditched for something sexier - peterson dry sump catch (with more speedflow).. "hectic lookin" overflow bottle & billet fuel filter will add to the look; endless brake pads and rda slotted rotors all round ordered

solarice » CMF Member North East United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 27 Apr 2011 12:40:54 AM
	Been keeping an eye on this, good to see you've been quietly working away. :) Can't fault Aspect, got my arches and alloys from them. Wanting to see pics and vids when this springs into life.

Rudy » CMF Member Hunter Valley mob 0400767960 Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 27 Apr 2011 05:54:06 AM
	love the engine specs, i plan on rebuilding one of my blocks, u will prob get a pm from me at a later date asking for advice, when u get this car going could u make a recording of the exhaust note for me at different rev ranges so i can put it on my stereo and play it real loud over an over in an attempt to drive the missus batty untill she gives me micra money(worked 4 my frnt bar,spoiler an taillights, just left pics all over house with "xmas wishlist" printed underneath)

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 30 Apr 2011 02:03:18 PM
	lol@rudy - love the subtle approach mate... ok, here are a few pics of the build (kindly provided by tmrs)... and before anyone says shit, the cam cover isn't staying black - think we can all agree that it looks a tad shithouse in the context of the rest of the engine bay... extractors will also be treated to some ceramic coating... enjoy!
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 30 Apr 2011 02:04:00 PM
	another angle
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 30 Apr 2011 02:04:40 PM
	more porn...
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 30 Apr 2011 02:05:53 PM
	and a front-on shot... note the afore-mentioned "hectic lookin" overflow bottle
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solarice » CMF Member North East United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 30 Apr 2011 11:51:44 PM
	looks sweet, i personally dont mind the black cam cover...but i can see where you're coming from :) You going highly polished cam cover or do you have a colour in mind?

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 01 May 2011 05:12:10 AM
	I have one of the March ST type boxes and shafts but have yet to drop the plate LSD standard CG13DE box out to attempt to replace it. Wondering what extent of modification is required to the bellhousing and rear engine mount....

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 02 May 2011 02:02:45 AM
	farkin jesus, can't believe you put those pics up kovert. it looks shithouse in those pics lol. LowMicra WROTE: "What are you running as regards to ignition setup? I see the dizzy is modded? That's why I ask, because if you look at the N2 March Cup car it runs a dizzy and leads?" all that remains of the factory dizzy is the outside casing mate, 2 optical sensors run in conjunction with eachother, one mounted inside the factory distributor housing, and another, which you can't see which includes the factory gearbox backing plate being modified using another optical sensor having the jun flywheel trigger it when required. ignition is controlled via a autronic 500r which is controlled by the smc.. total overkill for this car, but the best you can buy. this system could easily see 60pound+ in a turbo car, let alone an n/a screamer edit: should also mention that the 500r is then incharge of firing 4 seperate coils which fire the spark plugs

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 02 May 2011 02:13:01 AM
	SSUK WROTE: "I have one of the March ST type boxes and shafts but have yet to drop the plate LSD standard CG13DE box out to attempt to replace it. Wondering what extent of modification is required to the bellhousing and rear engine mount...." quite a few of the bolt holes had to be slightly modified and machined out. gear selector fork must be removed and replaced with a later model one and/or modified to use the stock k11 linkage, or alternatively could probably use the k10 linkage with the k10 gearbox, rear gearbox mount/engine mount bolts don't line up, redrill engine mount, get longer/shorter bolts as needed.neutral/reverse plugs need rewiring.

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 02 May 2011 02:17:37 AM
	kovert.k11 WROTE: "with the forged engine for the forced micra in the process of being built, tmrs and i have commenced another project - this time a naturally aspirated weapon.. thus far, this is what's already in/on, and what bits have been amassed for the job... installed/done: TEIN Sports Spec Driving Master Type HA Coilovers Aspect extractors Custom 2" Mandrel bend exhaust with Kustom Bitz Performance Weaponry High Flow Race Cats Catalytic Converter and Roxy Semi Titanium Muffler Whiteline Front & Rear Swaybars, Panhard Rod, Drop Links, Castor Kit & Camber Bolts JIC Lower Control Arm Brace Sard FPR Greddy Oil Catch Can Volk GR-N 15X6.5" rims (powdercoated black) with Advan 195/50R Semi Slicks 15mm Billet spacers on the front Recaro Evo 8 seats on Bride rails JDM Tail Lights and Depo Blk Headlights/Clear indicators (will be swapped for smoked) Rear wiper removed ABS & A/C removed Front and rear guards rolled and flared Windows tinted sexily Here's what's to go in... Hi-comp Japanese built CG13 (revs to 9000rpm) - CG10 pistons, bore/hone, port polish, head skimmed with JUN titanium valve retainers, Nismo valve springs, Nismo metal head gasket, Aspect camshafts (in. 256, ex. 264), Mulholland Adjustable Cam Gears RS5F31V K10 SuperTurbo Gearbox with Nismo RS5F31V shafts Keihin FCR39 Carb Kit Nismo Clutch JUN 3.6kg flywheel Autronic SMC & 500R with ignition sensor setup and coils Mulholland radiator, thermostat and lightweight water pump pulley Billion Silicone hoses Trust S13 Oil Cooler Kit (full JDM yo! - haha) Humphris Rear Adjustable Trailing Arms Front Tensioners B-Crews Engine Brace Power Steer Cusco Safety21 6-point cage Complete Nismo bush set Gti-r front brakes Defi din mount unit & sensors Auto Meter Air/Fuel & Juran Exhaust Temp Gauges Nardi steering wheel and boss kit (& pedals if i can track some down) C's short shifter Odyssey battery (relocated to under passenger seat) JDM front bar & spoiler (w/LED)+Nismo grille, front/rear lip will continue to update on the progress as the saga unfolds here's what she looks like presently... feedback most welcome " nology high energy cdi coils w/twisted pair tfezel wiring custom cdi coil leads + custom 1.5L alloy under car surge tank carter lift pump -6 lines throughout deleted return line from engine to fuel tank holley fuel reg billion racing p/s tank petterson oil catch can modified cam cover/breather system custom 1.5L alloy overflow bottle completely deleted engine bay fuse boxes/abs etc, custom mounted under dash ACR racing fuel filter custom alloy fuel distribution rail and not that it matters, but we used a "full river" dry cell battery this time around, they are actually slightly smaller + lighter.. and offer a better warranty! also worth mention is the tein coilovers. anyone interested in buying a set: i've only ever seen one set of this model available..this set.. the normal "cool master" teins are rubbish.

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 02 May 2011 10:39:52 AM
	thanks for fielding those inquiries and amending the parts list tmrs... fitting considering ur the one in this partnership that is doing all the work... fukn awesomely i might add! lmao.. and in regards to ur disbelief about my posting pix, the shit looks pretty sweet imo mate LowMicra WROTE: " turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: also worth mention is the tein coilovers. anyone interested in buying a set: i've only ever seen one set of this model available..this set.. the normal "cool master" teins are rubbish. " what are you talking about with this TMRS?? are they for sale?? How Much??" no Low, they are not for sale - tmrs is referring to the coilovers that are on my car and the fact that he's only ever seen the one set which are the ones i'm running

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 02 May 2011 04:24:41 PM
	turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: " SSUK WROTE: "I have one of the March ST type boxes and shafts but have yet to drop the plate LSD standard CG13DE box out to attempt to replace it. Wondering what extent of modification is required to the bellhousing and rear engine mount...." quite a few of the bolt holes had to be slightly modified and machined out. gear selector fork must be removed and replaced with a later model one and/or modified to use the stock k11 linkage, or alternatively could probably use the k10 linkage with the k10 gearbox, rear gearbox mount/engine mount bolts don't line up, redrill engine mount, get longer/shorter bolts as needed.neutral/reverse plugs need rewiring." Yeah, I noted the smaller bolting holes in the March box. I was considering to make up some studs to avoid boring out the bellhousing as it's not as meety as the K11 variant. Are they ok overbored to M10? I didn't note any differenced on the selector fork but I probably wasn't looking that hard. I have a spare K11 box, so a swap isn't an issue. Regarding the rear engine mount, I guess I will have to get the box up on the car to see the differences in alignment on the rear engine mount. Thanks for the tips, greatly appreciated :) Super build by the way, the attention to detail and the quality of aluminium parts you have used are exquisite. Have you considered making any of that in kit form for the K11 as a bolt on retrofit? I'd be very interested if you do, I'd sure like some of that gear over here on my track car! We have basically the same setup except for a set of Jenvey throttlebodies instead of the FCRs.

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 02 May 2011 08:22:43 PM
	SSUK WROTE: " turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: " SSUK WROTE: "I have one of the March ST type boxes and shafts but have yet to drop the plate LSD standard CG13DE box out to attempt to replace it. Wondering what extent of modification is required to the bellhousing and rear engine mount...." quite a few of the bolt holes had to be slightly modified and machined out. gear selector fork must be removed and replaced with a later model one and/or modified to use the stock k11 linkage, or alternatively could probably use the k10 linkage with the k10 gearbox, rear gearbox mount/engine mount bolts don't line up, redrill engine mount, get longer/shorter bolts as needed.neutral/reverse plugs need rewiring." Yeah, I noted the smaller bolting holes in the March box. I was considering to make up some studs to avoid boring out the bellhousing as it's not as meety as the K11 variant. Are they ok overbored to M10? I didn't note any differenced on the selector fork but I probably wasn't looking that hard. I have a spare K11 box, so a swap isn't an issue. Regarding the rear engine mount, I guess I will have to get the box up on the car to see the differences in alignment on the rear engine mount. Thanks for the tips, greatly appreciated :) Super build by the way, the attention to detail and the quality of aluminium parts you have used are exquisite. Have you considered making any of that in kit form for the K11 as a bolt on retrofit? I'd be very interested if you do, I'd sure like some of that gear over here on my track car! We have basically the same setup except for a set of Jenvey throttlebodies instead of the FCRs." the holes seem fine bored out that little extra bit. there's bugger all difference.. but enough for the orignal k11 bolts not to fit. same with the selector.. you wouldn't tell a difference untill you have both in your hand.. i didn't untill it was in the car.. absolute pain in the ass to change over in the car.. so make sure you change them over before you put it in... not really interested in making a kit for the k11.. imo, there's no money in it.. i'd probably sell 2 or 3 kits at best. plenty of dreamers, but not many people have any money.... after all.. we are modifying a cheap car to begin with.. anyone with money generally starts off with a better platform :). that said, there's nothing wrong with spending money on em.. between me and kovert i reckon if we put together the money we've spent on our micra's we'd have a pretty awesome house and land package lol

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 02 May 2011 10:25:24 PM
	Cool, I shall take a look at the boxes when I arrive back in the UK later this month. I live in Norway now, so time on the car is limited. Regarding kit parts, I was being purely selfish when asking for kit parts and was asking for myself rather than for the masses ;) I'd be more than happy to cover all material costs, plus your time & some kind of markup for gear of that calibre.

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 03 May 2011 10:19:29 AM
	SSUK WROTE: "Cool, I shall take a look at the boxes when I arrive back in the UK later this month. I live in Norway now, so time on the car is limited. Regarding kit parts, I was being purely selfish when asking for kit parts and was asking for myself rather than for the masses ;) I'd be more than happy to cover all material costs, plus your time & some kind of markup for gear of that calibre." haha. i kinda gathered as much. still not interested mate. only reason i do stuff for kovert is because he takes a stock car and bombs the crap out of it in one hit... its kind of a package deal, that and i enjoy building a car without the 'yeh, we'll do that next time attitude'..

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 03 May 2011 07:59:11 PM
	No worries tmrs, the whole car is aeroquip'd anyway, so I am sure I can conmission someone to do the work. I fear living in another country is going to turn me into a 'chequebook tuner', where I get everyone else to do the work and simply sign off checks for the work. The only problem is finding someone within a sensible distance, you wouldn't believe how hard it is to find a capable fabricator who can properly weld stainless and make a proper exhaust system etc for a car. It seems people are in trouble financially in the UK but at the same time the motivation for people to work seems really low, very odd! Will keep my eyes on the build, quite interested in the Japanese built engine and seeing what it puts out and where :)

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 03 May 2011 10:46:06 PM
	SSUK WROTE: "No worries tmrs, the whole car is aeroquip'd anyway, so I am sure I can conmission someone to do the work. I fear living in another country is going to turn me into a 'chequebook tuner', where I get everyone else to do the work and simply sign off checks for the work. The only problem is finding someone within a sensible distance, you wouldn't believe how hard it is to find a capable fabricator who can properly weld stainless and make a proper exhaust system etc for a car. It seems people are in trouble financially in the UK but at the same time the motivation for people to work seems really low, very odd! Will keep my eyes on the build, quite interested in the Japanese built engine and seeing what it puts out and where :)" quality here is a little hard to find also.. everyone's attitude is "the muffler shop down the road can knock me up an exhaust with extractors for 650 bucks mate with a high flow cat... then when i tell em if i make one its going to be atleast double and then some they quickly run away lol.. i love when they come back with a mild steel half press bent mig'd together piece of junk that sounds like a tractor with no exhaust.. dags hanging off are free, not to mention the $35 "high flow" cat lmao. a proper decen't high flow stainless cat is around $400 alone. anyway. sometimes chequebooks are handy!

mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 04 May 2011 01:02:26 PM
	man thats a rebuild....

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 04 May 2011 10:50:48 PM
	no Low, they are not for sale - tmrs is referring to the coilovers that are on my car and the fact that he's only ever seen the one set which are the ones i'm running " and that the other model is pov

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 24 Jul 2011 08:45:06 PM
	Thought I would bump this up. Not had any updates for months.....what's the progress?

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 25 Jul 2011 07:20:41 PM
	up to taking care of the interior: had a major shit fight tracking down the defi exhaust temp, intake manifold pressure and tacho gauges - defi was apparently affected quite badly by the disasters in japan, and advance cr gauges are being discontinued by defi (60mm cr tacho will be as rare as rocking horse shit soon)... thankfully managed to track them down, get a triple gauge pod and tmrs is now in the process of installing them. have also purchased a set of RG JTC'N1 7 stage coilovers to use instead of the teins (which will go onto the daily drive). cam cover was still at the painters last i heard, but we are getting close to a conclusion - famous last words...

jcmicra » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 25 Jul 2011 07:27:03 PM
	RG JTC N1 eh ;D i like your style

mycra » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 25 Jul 2011 10:43:10 PM
	eager to see you dyno results man...

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Thu 10 Nov 2011 05:37:25 AM
	Bumpy bump! How are things shaping up?

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 11 Nov 2011 09:57:08 AM
	we've been waiting on some custom leads for the ignition coils to be made up... after many weeks and an impatient wait, they are ready. i also got a titanium exhaust system which requires some dicking around to fit it seems; and there is also a nismo mechanical LSD to install in the 31V box.. there will be some more pics of the build shortly - stay tuned...

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 11 Nov 2011 06:43:16 PM
	Cool. That's a valid reminder......I have to actually do the same! Best get an order into Magnecor eh ;) Ti exhaust, wow sounds mega. What's the weight saving over a comparable stainless system? Will be interesting to see how it sounds too, as the Honda's I have seen with them sound a bit crazy. We have to work with a 98dBA noise limit measured at 0.5m from the tailpipe at 45deg angle, at 2/3 maximum rpm. Not sure how that's gonna pan out just yet :-/ I was looking at a Nismo plate type LSD but they are like rocking horse sh*t, one on yahoo at the moment now though but at YEN102,000 I have money better spent elsewhere, plus it will probably be a lot easier to commission Gripper to make one to suit the 31V box.....we'll see after we get things rolling. We're still waiting for engine parts to arrive, for the shell to be booked in to have some minor work and the engine bay resprayed and also to have the head sent off for some pretty radical upgrades. Looking forward to the pics, knowing your work this will be one choice motor :) Ours wont be anywhere near as well laid out but it will be interesting to compare things when they're completed, run in and finished mapped.

UR1WISH » CMF Member Parramatta Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 11 Nov 2011 11:59:13 PM
	Verry nice bud.

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 14 Nov 2011 09:18:10 PM
	as promised, here are a few pics of where we're up to - again, TMRS shows us how it's done....
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 14 Nov 2011 09:18:41 PM
	even when u provide measurements for custom ignition leads, apparently you can still fuck it up and make 2 too short!?!?
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 14 Nov 2011 09:20:27 PM
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 14 Nov 2011 09:39:06 PM
	Very nice indeed, top job! :) This build has motivated me to get the engine bay sprayed when the shell goes in for some minor work later this week on the rear sill area, which is a common place for rot here in the UK. The FCR's sure make the Jenvey's, (which have no more than 3cm maximum between the bulkhead and trumpets), seem huge in comparison.

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 14 Nov 2011 10:42:51 PM
	LowMicra WROTE: "What's with the two leads?" kovert.k11 WROTE: "even when u provide measurements for custom ignition leads, apparently you can still fuck it up and make 2 too short!?!?" true story

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 14 Nov 2011 11:15:58 PM
	LowMicra WROTE: "What's with the two leads?" thought that my comment was pretty self-explanatory given the context of the picture and the fact there are obviously 2 leads missing

Greo » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 15 Nov 2011 10:59:14 AM
	I think more to the fact he probably isn't running the car on 2cyl might b using different leads while waiting for custom ones? Or not driving it yet. Little bit of critical thinking next time Hmmm? Drugs are bad, mmmkay. Lol

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 15 Nov 2011 11:49:07 AM
	Actually, we rigged up wireless connectivity between those 2 plugs and the coil packs - ran out of funds to do the other 2, so had to use conventional ignition leads... lmao

RBLUV » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 06 Apr 2012 10:41:58 PM
	hows the wireless connectivity going?

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 17 Apr 2012 11:30:01 PM
	after some dramas with the carbs and fueling, decided to ditch the fcr and get some of this action happening... looking @ you SSUK :) so if anyone is in the market for a fcr kit, let me know
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 18 Apr 2012 01:09:10 AM
	Haha, sweet! Matt sent me that very photo yesterday as a matter of fact ;) I had a feeling they may be destined to you but one can never be too sure. Slightly different to ours, we have the old original design, as attached. There are a few variations but the system length I am sure will be very similar. If so, then cyls 3 & 4 will be damn close to the back bulkhead, (2-3cm). We had the bulkhead cut back to make more room on this build, so we could get an adequate air feed/filtration system in there. Ours jenveys are a little more fiddly to balance up with the throtle linkages. You'll get a nice 1/2 way house between inboard and outboard injector positioning with those and they'll be a fine addition to an already legendary build.....you wont be dissapointed in adding those into the mix i'm sure :) Eagrely awaiting the results! How much more is left to do by the way? We've got heaps on our plate still :/
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SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 18 Apr 2012 01:16:47 AM
	Bulkhead modification....
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turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 18 Apr 2012 10:30:37 AM
	dang. kovert sent me the pics yesterday. my first reaction is where the hell is that going to fit lol. i can't see it but time will tell lol. car is pretty well finished, just waiting on these quads then its plenty of 1st gear skid action

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 18 Apr 2012 06:39:52 PM
	turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: "dang. kovert sent me the pics yesterday. my first reaction is where the hell is that going to fit lol. i can't see it but time will tell lol. car is pretty well finished, just waiting on these quads then its plenty of 1st gear skid action " It will be a tight fit I'm sure. The nice thing with the shorter throttlebody units is you have more room to play with horn lengths should you have any problems. Ours are quite short already at 40mm and there's not much scope to change due to the throttlebody elements being 60mm from flange-flange. I'll be very interested in the numbers once the mappings done :)

schoona » CMF Member Newcastle Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 18 Apr 2012 07:41:41 PM
	Holy shit. That's awesome you pair!

Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 18 Apr 2012 08:27:32 PM
	F'ing hell I didn't win the lotto again:( Great work indeed guy's mega commitment!

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 18 Apr 2012 11:09:42 PM
	Mega commitment!?! think i should be committed for spending so much ca$h on a shitbox micra, and TMRS is ready to be committed because this is doing his head in!! bahaha... cheers for the comments blokes

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 18 Apr 2012 11:17:34 PM
	Hahaha! Seems more than one of us needs to be committed then. Only those who own fast cars seem to think people like us are nuts to be putting this much effort into a K11. The usual comment is, 'why don't you sell it and buy something faster'......when they get the response of, 'I already do own something faster' it often throws them off ;) One can always rock up in one of these if the situation warrants it. In the UK at least, these have way more street cred...
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Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Thu 19 Apr 2012 10:49:42 PM
	Yeah bit of coin on a'shrink' instead of a 'faster' car might help a lot of us. hahaha hhmm Jag v12 in Micra...where to mount seat?

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 15 May 2012 09:16:39 PM
	....and now the fun of fitting the quads into the engine bay without modifying the bulkhead begins - first casualty of the process:: the brake booster...removed and replaced with a wilwood master cylinder which will be sporting an AP Racing reservoir...
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 15 May 2012 09:21:38 PM
	and for those who thought k11 handling mods couldn't look pimp - custom upper and lower rear control arms..TMRS made a couple of sets for me: this shitbox will get some of this luv...
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 15 May 2012 09:30:26 PM
	fuel system needs to be altered for quads, so got a bosch 044 inline pump that'll be used in conjunction with the surge tank
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RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 15 May 2012 09:30:46 PM
	^^^ Fuxk they look IMPRESSIVE :D

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 16 May 2012 04:21:57 AM
	We turned & welded up an alloy spacer for the OEM master cylinder on our first build. Cost #### all and didn't require any new lines. Braked fine but didn't leave much room for a filter arrangement but it was only done to get the car setup quickly. How do you plan to rig everything up on the single outlet? I'm guessing the rules on braking systems are different out there. We'd have to have 2 master cylinders, as the rules state that there must be 2 independent hydraulic circuits of which a single failure cannot result in a total loss of braking.
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 01 Jun 2012 08:56:45 PM
	pic of brake master cylinder/reservoir setup to allow room for the quads
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 01 Jun 2012 08:58:08 PM
	bosch 044 inline pump mounted with surge tank....
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climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 01 Jun 2012 09:18:53 PM
	so much win in that last picture. very nice kovert!

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 01 Jun 2012 09:21:14 PM
	cheers joel - i know 'ay!... too much win to be on a micra! lol

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Fri 01 Jun 2012 09:55:36 PM
	Nice job!! There's something about Aeroquip style fittings, braided lines and aluminium fabrication that looks so darn good ;) We're waiting on a set of CP pistons and billet cams here before we can complete the engine, (couldn't get the profile we wanted out of a Nissan OEM cast blank dammit!).

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 02 Jun 2012 12:56:46 AM
	SSUK WROTE: "Nice job!! There's something about Aeroquip style fittings, braided lines and aluminium fabrication that looks so darn good ;) . " agreed! actually had a dream the other nite about koverts silver car. all i could remember was seam welding and heaps of alloy lol. re: brake setup, lines will be tee'd off into the ap cylinder and run an inline wilwood bias controller on the line to the rear via the cabin mounted nice and handy to allow for on the fly adjustments to the braking. this project is getting retarded, from what was initially put in an engine to spending mass dollars. hopefully it'll all be over soon and we can move onto bigger and better things. sigh

asdame » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 02 Jun 2012 08:17:11 AM
	my god this thread is utter pure car filth :o lol my heads gonna explode from such luvely engineering

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 02 Jun 2012 09:12:52 AM
	+1 for retarded...lmao... think what is different about this build compared to others happening @ the moment (SSUK excluded) is at least TMRS & i have a plan... other builds i'm thinking of remind me of the simpsons when moe renovates the bar and turns it into Uncle Moe's Family Feedbag - with the "whole bunch of crazy crap on the wall" - am glad to say that we're doing more than simply seeing how much shit from yahoo japan or other wank-factor parts we can squeeze into a k11 micra....end rant

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 03 Jun 2012 03:13:50 AM
	Totally! I know exactly what you mean, the typical cycle on the UK forums is to buy a load of stuff, run out of money, sell it on again and watch things repeat themselves. VERY few seem to have any concept of a plan or overall objective. Some parts have probably seen half a dozen owners and never been part of a completed project. Even we had to make some changes and we did end up shooting a little higher than we initially thought but the end result should be well worth it. Once it's had it's initial mapping and shakedowns we can get to some bling I'm sure ;)

solarice » CMF Member North East United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Thu 07 Jun 2012 01:39:23 AM
	turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: this project is getting retarded, from what was initially put in an engine to spending mass dollars. hopefully it'll all be over soon and we can move onto bigger and better things. sigh" I know the feeling, unfortunatly if im anything to go by mines been "finished" for a few years now and i dont think a couple of months have gone by without some kind of engine etc tweaking going on (some bigger than others). I've recently started buggering with the intake side again, sometimes wish someone would slap my hand away as i reach for the tools lol. Projects looking sweet though and 100% agree to needing a plan. The only way to keep sane and on track imo is check list after check list. If you ain't ticking stuff off you're doing it wrong. :)

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 13 Aug 2012 11:21:01 PM
	so for anyone considering getting jenvey throttle bodies - DON'T! - unless ur up for a major headfuck if u want it done properly... first issue u will encounter is the throttle linkage requires modification so it doesn't foul on the manifold:
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 13 Aug 2012 11:22:35 PM
	#2, u will need to trim the air horns so they will fit onto the throttle bodies:
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kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 13 Aug 2012 11:24:51 PM
	#3 - custom bolts are required to bolt the manifold to the block.. but if u are insane enough to persist, deal with all the shit that the process throws at you along the way, u'll end up with some pimp looking shit like this:
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RBLUV » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 13 Aug 2012 11:29:08 PM
	looks awesome got it running yet?

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 13 Aug 2012 11:45:15 PM
	RBLUV WROTE: "looks awesome got it running yet?" + 1 world class :)

DumpsterMummy » CMF Member Kingsley Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 13 Aug 2012 11:46:19 PM
	Cleanest looking engine bay on this forum, methinks.

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 14 Aug 2012 12:05:21 AM
	TMRS deserves massive props on this one... the amount of grief that this thing has caused is unbelievable!?! in regards as to the question is it running: quote "All needs doin now is remote fuel reg, cunt was in the way where it was. Wiring, and brake lines/bias controller. Everything else is bolted on, brake pedal+ master is finished, master pushrod is cut welded, tapped and adjusted." end quote... lol

DumpsterMummy » CMF Member Kingsley Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 14 Aug 2012 12:09:37 AM
	Excited to see what figures this car pulls, NA at it's finest.

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 14 Aug 2012 12:28:27 AM
	100kw is the aim

DumpsterMummy » CMF Member Kingsley Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 14 Aug 2012 12:36:51 AM
	Jaw Drops I think I have a new favourite Micra :P

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 15 Aug 2012 05:26:53 PM
	injectors and fuel rail fitted....
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sr20micramike » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 15 Aug 2012 05:50:08 PM
	Has this really taken almost 2 years?............yawn!! Buy a pulsar gtir(for boost) and/or Pulsar VZR(N/A) and be done with it!

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 15 Aug 2012 06:03:22 PM
	sr20micramike WROTE: "Has this really taken almost 2 years?............yawn!! " Thats about 3 years less than you,ve been on here mike, and we,ve yet to see any of your "work" ;)

sr20micramike » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 15 Aug 2012 06:48:07 PM
	frank2 WROTE: " sr20micramike WROTE: "Has this really taken almost 2 years?............yawn!! " Thats about 3 years less than you,ve been on here mike, and we,ve yet to see any of your "work" ;)" ok frank, i typed a whole page explaining why you havent seen any of my work but i cant be bothered, i dont need to prove myself here or on the track! i am known for my engine conversions , thats it really.

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 15 Aug 2012 08:45:20 PM
	sr20micramike WROTE: Buy a pulsar gtir(for boost) and/or Pulsar VZR(N/A) and be done with it!" if i wanted a pulsar, i would have bought a friggin' pulsar, then i'd be building that thing a posting on a pulsar forum...

climberjoel » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 15 Aug 2012 08:53:00 PM
	sr20micramike WROTE: "Has this really taken almost 2 years?" yeah but time flies when your having fun! keep up the good work Kovert/TMRS - this and your other k11's are quite the achievement

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 15 Aug 2012 10:11:19 PM
	Shit has taken forever, but the setup has changed endlessly, with new/more parts being added constantly, that and when wrong parts get ordered, or you order parts that turn up and are complete rubbish that I refuse to use take time to rectify. Take the rear control arms for instance, one part on the car that has come together from america, germany and some home grown cad/cnc work, took almost a month and a half to get the jenvey's, and when they turned up... Nothing fit. Between all that, running a business, and 5 other race cars I maintain, probably Doing alright :)

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Wed 15 Aug 2012 11:51:03 PM
	kovert.k11 WROTE: "100kw is the aim" You'll make that easily, even on a base run-in tune. I'd say you ll end up around 110kW ;)

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Thu 16 Aug 2012 10:36:07 AM
	Jesus, that's keen. I would have been stoked to get a 100

Tinky » CMF Member Currumbin Waters Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sat 18 Aug 2012 07:26:43 PM
	Shit f/all room between those t/b's. Looks perfect fitted :) Might need to strengthen fire wall as on startup the engine will suck the rest of the car in. HAhahaha good work you two.

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 19 Aug 2012 07:06:54 PM
	turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: "Jesus, that's keen. I would have been stoked to get a 100" Our last run was 93kW @ 7250rpm on a bone stock CG13DE running 264deg cams, exhaust and Jenveys..... On the subject of Jenveys, those new style units seem like quite a bodge with all the fiddling you had to do. If you look further up in the thread you can see the differences from the original kit that dates back to the mid 90's and the current one. For the money, I would expect it to rubby well bolt on!

kovert.k11 » CMF Member onjomama Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 19 Aug 2012 08:38:50 PM
	SSUK WROTE: For the money, I would expect it to rubby well bolt on!" +1! exactly the conversion that TMRS and myself had...we were gobsmacked that something so costly, that was apparently designed for the cg13, required so much dicking around and modification to fit..not good enough really..Jenvey sales pointing out to me that they don't make many kits for the cg13 and aren't used to making something so small doesn't excuse them in my book!

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 20 Aug 2012 04:30:40 PM
	SSUK WROTE: " turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: "Jesus, that's keen. I would have been stoked to get a 100" Our last run was 93kW @ 7250rpm on a bone stock CG13DE running 264deg cams, exhaust and Jenveys..... On the subject of Jenveys, those new style units seem like quite a bodge with all the fiddling you had to do. If you look further up in the thread you can see the differences from the original kit that dates back to the mid 90's and the current one. For the money, I would expect it to rubby well bolt on!" not really much different to this engine, slightly higher comp and some monkey china man porting about the only differences, cant see how some porting and a fly shit more compression is going to make 20kw, thats a massive ask for a 1.3l, 93kw is an amazing effort in itself, considering a stock one with extractors and 256' cams made 60kw in my old blue thing. means i would have gained 30kw by bolting on some jenveys. thats like adding 7psi boost lol. didn't old mate in perth i forget his name now, that red micra, big n/a build, jenveys, motec forged pistons etc make something like 95kw? i could be very wrong, but if this thing hits 100kw i'll be quietly suprised

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 20 Aug 2012 04:32:35 PM
	p.s, when jenvey made the "kit" for the k11, i can 100% confirm that there quality control to ensure somewhat correct fitment was non existant.

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 20 Aug 2012 09:11:39 PM
	Yeah, the QC on that Jenvey kit is non-existent for sure and piss poor in my opinion. I don't know why they changed it from the 'kit' I have. We still had to make the throttle linkage but that was quite simple in comparison to all the fiddling you have clearly had to do. Zero excuse....period! Headwork on the CG engines is usually met with some disappointment, as most are not pushing the engines enough to warrant it. One really has to be pushing some decent rpm to make any porting worth while. EBB proved that with his 'Maxi EVO' head. It made no more power/torque than an essentially identical car here in the UK even though it had been ported with larger valves, a flowed inlet manifold and all the other stuff he added. Granted, it was coupled in with all the other mods, so it cannot be singled out, however there was nothing there which stood it out from anything done previously. Whatever the output, it's a killer built car and deserves kudos just for sticking with it and making it all fit together and work. Our engine has been a long time in the making and will just about be a year by the time the head is bolted on and it's ready to collect, (some of us must be bloody mad!) ;)

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Mon 20 Aug 2012 11:19:13 PM
	SSUK WROTE: "Yeah, the QC on that Jenvey kit is non-existent for sure and piss poor in my opinion. I don't know why they changed it from the 'kit' I have. We still had to make the throttle linkage but that was quite simple in comparison to all the fiddling you have clearly had to do. Zero excuse....period! Headwork on the CG engines is usually met with some disappointment, as most are not pushing the engines enough to warrant it. One really has to be pushing some decent rpm to make any porting worth while. EBB proved that with his 'Maxi EVO' head. It made no more power/torque than an essentially identical car here in the UK even though it had been ported with larger valves, a flowed inlet manifold and all the other stuff he added. Granted, it was coupled in with all the other mods, so it cannot be singled out, however there was nothing there which stood it out from anything done previously. Whatever the output, it's a killer built car and deserves kudos just for sticking with it and making it all fit together and work. Our engine has been a long time in the making and will just about be a year by the time the head is bolted on and it's ready to collect, (some of us must be bloody mad!) ;) " sometimes the best things are the ones that arent rushed. definately agree with you on porting/bigger valves doing sweet eff all though,unless pushing massive boost.i have dyno'd many different sorts of cars, and the claims that some engine builders put on headwork is just utter crap, i blame magazines for most peoples misguided ideas about how much what sort of mods will make. the amount of times i read that adjusting cam timing a degree made an extra 20-30kw i just laugh. , yeh it makes some gains/losses, but i normally experience, like 5kw, absolute max.

RTK » CMF Member Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 21 Aug 2012 07:51:00 PM
	What sort of wiring set up is need to run Individual Coils? Can you run the standard ECU or is A/Market essential?

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 23 Dec 2012 09:26:17 PM
	Thought I'd bump this up for a progress update. How's it going guys? We're just waiting on custom guides and spring retainers before the engine build can actually be completed. Custom takes soooo much time! Would love some info on the RG JTC N1, if you don't mind. Are the 7 stage units 'ZN018FP' part number and by 7 stage, is that code for 7 damper settings? Not really much info kicking about on these. Also how do they fair performance wise compared to others you've tried?

JPK11 » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Thu 27 Dec 2012 12:48:22 AM
	this build is quite insane for an NA micra haha

Ninpo » CMF Member Taree Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Sun 10 Mar 2013 08:39:27 PM
	Droooool, I want my engine to be like this ^ when it grows up! Great build..

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: new NA project started	Tue 18 Jun 2013 05:11:38 PM
	Bump up to the top....