germank11's micra-project - Cisco's Micra Files

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	germank11's micra-project	Fri 12 Dec 2008 05:26:43 PM
	Hey folks! Just want to start to tell you from my little micra-project. Perhaps someone has some advices, or is just in the mood to talk about. A few weeks ago i searched this community for my micra, and someone recommended me to contact matthew humphris. 2 weeks and very much nice emails later, here we go, my "new" engine arrived yesterday. The Spec's: -1275cc -Nismo pistons -lighten and balanced bottom end -helix paddle type centre plate and uprated pressure plate -Peter vaughen head and cams -Nismo head gasket -4Branch manifold and maniflow exhaustsystem -Nismo engine mountings -competition radiator and competition hoses -group a air intake It was used in a group A micra. As far as i know it comes out at 7400rpm with 118bhp. These are the parts which arrived yesterday. I have also ordered at rallynuts the whiteline panhard-rod and spitfire ignition leads. The plans for the next two months (when the money is available): -BuddyClub P1 Racing QF 15x7 4,6kg -Nankang 185/45/15 tires -D2-Racing coilovers -D2-Racing brake kit (this one because it is easier to pass the german "Tüv" in comparison with nissan "xyz" brakes like gti or something) -selfmade shortshifter -rear strut brace What i have done yet: -lightened the car (spare wheel, back seats) -racing seatbelt "schroth" -selfmade exhaust system -35mm lowering with H&R springs and koni dampers "yellow" -front strut brace and lower sturtbrace "Wiechers" My base of operations is a Micra Super S build 1995, black, 1.3. I try to keep it black/blue. Mostly black, but blue valvecover, ignition leads, brake kit, hoses and seatbelt. I try to fit my selfmade exhaust system to the 4branch manifold, cause there will be a problem to run the maniflow system in germany, it will be too loud, no catalystic converter, no papers for the german "Tüv" etc. So i will try to fit my system with a 200cpsi cat. In fact of that, i think the rear exhaust could be sold to someone, anyone interested? One question, any ideas to keep the exhaust system as much quite as possible? Because with the manifold the first cat will be removed, and the second cat will be a highflow cat, and i think the system is getting too loud... advices? I have tought about welding some sheet into the tubes to reduce the sound. I have found this one, a silencer of a gun... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Patent_DE1553874_07-Oct-1971_Handfeuerwaffe_mit_Schalldaempfer_Heckler_und_Koch.png/800px-Patent_DE1553874_07-Oct-1971_Handfeuerwaffe_mit_Schalldaempfer_Heckler_und_Koch.png The problem will be the backlog (i think it is the right word), i'm trying to keep the system highflow... but quite.. Also the actual suspension setup will be needless when the coilovers are build in, again, if someone is interested, please talk to me! The first work will be to change the engine. Probably this will be done in the time from 18.12.08 until 12.01.09. I will try to record every step, and post some picture in this thread! So far, kind regards! Christian

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 12 Dec 2008 08:52:41 PM
	christian it sounds very impressive, bring on the pics! (especially the group A intake) i doubt it will be too loud, but you might need some thermal wrap around that big cat, to keep it hot and pass the tuv mine is just a cut down shifter, but these pulsar ones are cheap frank
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turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 12 Dec 2008 09:06:03 PM
	sounds like a mad project. get something a lil stickier then the nankangs thou.

Red Menace » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 13 Dec 2008 04:35:27 AM
	Christian, I'm sure you're on top of the job, but for goodness' sake make sure your engine management is up to the task! Would be a shame to lean out and damage such a nice engine. Incidentally, any photos of that rear exhaust?

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 13 Dec 2008 06:51:08 AM
	Red Menace WROTE: "Christian, I'm sure you're on top of the job, but for goodness' sake make sure your engine management is up to the task! Would be a shame to lean out and damage such a nice engine. Incidentally, any photos of that rear exhaust?" Hey! It is already mapped, because the engine was in use before, so don't worry! Don't know the exact name, but it is a piggyback desk set or something, wil post the datas the next days. But i am going for a new mapping after e few modifications to be on the safe side! I will be able to make photos the next week i hope! @turbo-march-rollingshell, what do you mean with mad? Me english is not the best. There are no other tyres in these dimension, and i want to go for 185/45 compared with the diameter of 195/45 one's.

Campbell » CMF Member sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 13 Dec 2008 09:03:18 AM
	haha, when he says mad, he means great :)

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 13 Dec 2008 11:15:41 AM
	Campbell WROTE: "haha, when he says mad, he means great :)" lol, yeh what he said

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 13 Dec 2008 04:31:34 PM
	A few minutes ago i found this one in the web, i think it could be interesting for someone else: http://www.shortec.de I think the price is good compared to the work to do a selfmade shortshifter. I have orderd one piece a few minutes ago, when it arrives i will post some pictures. have a nice weekend @ all!

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 17 Dec 2008 06:40:09 PM
	Hey Folks! I have just searched a little bit the web, and finally there is a shop in germany selling gti-r brakes. Now i am trying to get some, because they will cost just about the half of the d2-racing brake kit. But one question, i can't find any brakepads separate from the stock one's. Do you got any shops or addresses to get some? ...forgot to ask: is there a need to change something else like mastercylinder? Or just bolt on the caliper? regards, christian

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 17 Dec 2008 07:22:28 PM
	chrisrian stock pads will be more than adequate imo, and i think everybody uses the stock master cylinder (you,ll just get a bit more pedal travel) you might want to adjust the rear load apportioning valve tho. and you,ll probably need some washers between the caliper and hub frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 17 Dec 2008 09:07:20 PM
	Thank you frank. This weekend i will start to fit the engine. My mother is going to buy a new digi-cam, so i will be able to make some (i hope) high quality pictures! I keep you up to date! regards!

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 18 Dec 2008 10:44:14 AM
	I run the adf18's off the 2.0L pulsar and use standard pads, so far its been 2 years and no real wear on pads or discs (maybe I should use them more?)

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 18 Dec 2008 05:46:26 PM
	fred WROTE: (maybe I should use them more?)" Haha... perhaps you are rolling around like a grandma ;-) ? No just joking, thanks for your advices! I will have a look for stock pads, but there are different types, original, replacmentpads... one shop offered me some ferrodo-pads, that should by nice.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 18 Dec 2008 10:44:31 PM
	Today i started thinkig about the manifold. The problem will be, to drive it legal, i will need a cat, and here in germany the law is fucked up, so i think it will be problematicly with just an 200cpsi. So i got an idea, listen, perhaps someone can tell me something needful about it: Would it be a problem to fit 2 cats to the manifold? I was thinking about the tube which connects the last part of the manifold (2 into 1). I think like these: If you use 1 cat (200cpsi) per 2 cylinders, you reduce the back pressure compared to the 1-cat-construction to 50% , or am i going wrong? Cause the full exhausts must not stream against 200cpsi at one time, the half of the exhaust volume streams against 200cpsi. I don't wanted to start a new thread, hope there might be some advices. The reason why i start thinking is the law at one site, i have to create a exhaust-certificate together with the technical control board (tüv in germany) to drive the manifold legal, and at the other site, would i drive it "hidden", there would be to much polution cause i am driving mostly short distances and the cat won't work before he reached the right temperature( in the normal way of construction). <- i am not 100% sure about that, but many people here told me the first cat is supposed for the "cold-running-time" (excuse, i don'T know the english word). I have added an picture, to show what i mean. regards, christian
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 21 Dec 2008 05:33:29 AM
	Damn... can't fit the engine in, this morning i woked up with a damned conjunctivitis... horrible, hope to start at the middle of the week...

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 21 Dec 2008 06:17:07 AM
	christian hard luck dude, the single cat should pass ok, if you heatwrap it well, imo frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 24 Dec 2008 03:44:45 AM
	Hey folks! Today i have started on the engine. We worked for 3 hours, tomorrow we will remove the engine, and than the things will go one. But we also have to replace some stock parts ( driveshaft-sleeve (don't know the english word) and some gums on the anti roll bar). Damn the stock-cat have been a whole piece of rust, fortunately i am going for a highflow stainless steel cat. Here are some pictures of the "new" engine, the parts, and my "flying" little micramachine. At this point, merry christmas and have a nice festive season! Kind regards, Christian
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 24 Dec 2008 03:46:57 AM
	...still waiting to take its first breath and spit the first fire on german ground...
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 24 Dec 2008 03:47:44 AM
	Manifold, exhaust system, oil and some other parts...
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 24 Dec 2008 03:48:05 AM
	I believe i can fly...
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 24 Dec 2008 06:01:17 AM
	The red cylinder head cover will be for sale, because i am going for a blue setup, and the second cover is on the way...

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 24 Dec 2008 06:33:09 AM
	your car looks mint christian ;-) post some pics up on msc (uk) when it,s done eh frank

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 24 Dec 2008 09:01:41 AM
	I'm jealous. good work keep us posted

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 25 Dec 2008 01:45:48 AM
	Hohoho... santavoice ...just joking.... The engine includes the gearbox has been removed today. It think i will get back on the car at friday. At the moment there will be some family-days i have to be present... argh. Total time of work till now: 7 hours. I think it is a good time, cause it is the first time for me changing an engine and i am trying to do it "safe" and don't getting into haste. Next step will be to clean all parts, bolt the gearbox on the "new" engine, changing the cable harness, and bring it back to the engine bay. So far... kind regards!

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 26 Dec 2008 12:05:22 PM
	Hey! I am just back from my micra, with some questions... i hope you could help me, have a look at the picture: On the left side the old bushing, on the right the new nismo one... Whats about the position? With the new bushings the engine will hang down 1 cm more, or am i thinking wrong? The second question: Where do i get the chronology/order for the connectors of the injectors ? I hope you know what i mean... because every connector looks like the same, no difference... but i have to change the cable harness.
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 26 Dec 2008 12:11:24 PM
	...and the last question for today, could you say me where to fit the fuel-pressure-regulator? I have marked the both srews i don't know where to fit... Thanks a lot, i hope you can help me... regards, Christian
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turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 26 Dec 2008 12:57:56 PM
	germank11 WROTE: "Hey! I am just back from my micra, with some questions... i hope you could help me, have a look at the picture: On the left side the old bushing, on the right the new nismo one... Whats about the position? With the new bushings the engine will hang down 1 cm more, or am i thinking wrong? The second question: Where do i get the chronology/order for the connectors of the injectors ? I hope you know what i mean... because every connector looks like the same, no difference... but i have to change the cable harness." their is a mark on the old rubber bush in the stock micra mount... mark where that mark is before you pull the old rubber out and align the nismo one with its mark on the stock micra mount if that makes sense.. but yes you are correct, if not installed correctly the mount won't sit the engine in the appropriate place. not really to sure what your on about with the injectors, but they do have to be wired in a certain order.. can you put up a picture of your new wiring harness? fuel reg can be mounted anywhere you want. you'll have to make your own bracket.. i'd just mount it from the fire wall.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 26 Dec 2008 01:14:03 PM
	Ok thank you, ihave thought every connector would be different, like a key for a key hole. The stock harness is wired decent, but the "modified" one looks a little bit like me when i stick two fingers into a power point... I will take a picture tomorrow, today it's too late ( 03:12 / 3:12am in germany) So far, thank you.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:03:29 AM
	Ok, today i have checked the bush's again, also the marks. Here is a picture, and in my opinion, there is a difference in the position. with the new bush's the engine will hang ~1cm higher. The other 2 bush's below the engine on the "brace" fits 100%.
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:05:45 AM
	And here is a picture of the harness, and i think it is wired in the right chrnology liek turbo has said. BUT, will there be a difference between LHD and RHD ? Because in Germany the steeringwheel is on the left side, and in UK on the right side, Just thinking about because there is a differnce at the silicone hoses from LHD to RHD.
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:08:55 AM
	Just a picture of the intermediate result.
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:09:59 AM
	Stock vs. Helix
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:10:57 AM
	Here it is frank, the air intake.
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:12:32 AM
	Another view.
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:24:11 AM
	oooh, thats nice christian ;-) a ram air jobby eh

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:31:34 AM
	Do you have any suggestions reffering to the bush's frank? I have wrote an email to matthew, and he said he had never been in "trouble" with the nismo bush's..

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 08:42:01 AM
	christian the top one should be ok, and i dont think it will hurt if the back of the g/box is 10mm lower, if the gearchange and exhaust brackets are pulling, you could turn the bush a little eh ? frank

fusca » CMF Member Leiria Portugal Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 11:13:43 AM
	Excelent project!!

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 11:38:06 AM
	i'll have another look at the bushes today and how to align them. i had the same problem with another car.

deNs » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 01:42:36 PM
	To me it looks like that the original engine mount bush has worn out and looks torn in the bit under where the bolt goes through - or is that just me? If it is torn I would expect it'd have been at the same position as the nismo one when it was new. ---dens

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 27 Dec 2008 02:50:04 PM
	deNs WROTE: "To me it looks like that the original engine mount bush has worn out and looks torn in the bit under where the bolt goes through - or is that just me? If it is torn I would expect it'd have been at the same position as the nismo one when it was new. ---dens" nah, its just you ;P their like that stocko.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 06:40:37 AM
	Once again i have a question, today i have checked the harness again, and there are some connectors left, i have marked them. Could someone tell me something about? I guess it is for temperature-sensor or something, but i am not sure.
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deNs » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 11:26:24 AM
	If you could give a closeup of all the plugs in question I might be able to help - I've just gone and removed all the standard plugs off a loom and marked them for what they're for - if you can get a closer picture of them all I may be able to identify what they're for :) That is, as long as they're still the same plugs used on the original loom. If I were to guess any of them now I'd say that #5 is AFM or something around that area - most of the connectors around that area on the car are different and can only plug into one place. I found that the coolant temp sensor plug was the same as an injector plug and was close-ish to the end of the wiring where the injectors are, but that may have either been relocated on yours or a different plug might've been used. Sorry I can't help more than that without a closer look at it :P ---dens

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 11:45:06 AM
	Here it is, a closer picture of the small one:
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 11:45:42 AM
	And the one at the "injector-line"
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 11:48:20 AM
	Before i removed every connector in the !whole! engine bay i have marked them with some tape and numberd them, also the harness. And the connectors on the big picture marked with numbers left... Also i don't know where to fit the brown connector on the last picture, i have had a short look to the engine, near the injectors and throttle body (that must be the area, the onnector is wired extremely short) but there is nothing it could fit in... It seems there is more to fit compared to the sock harness.

deNs » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 12:07:05 PM
	Don't know what the small ones are but i'm pretty sure the brown 3-wire one is for the TPS (throttle position sensor). ---dens

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 12:46:01 PM
	ok, had a quick squiz for you. number 5 plug is the idle control valve.. which by the look of your loom it has been cable tied off and wasn't used.. i'd be ringing up the place you got the engine/loom from and asking them whether or not to plug it in... but it isn't really needed imo. number 4 plug is for your wiper motor on the fire wall.. you would of had to unplug this to get the old loom out. wire numbers 1,2, and 3 are all unknown's... no one on this site will be able to help you with these and you need to contact the place you got it from as its some custom gear. looks like your running some kinda piggy back ecu, so it could possibly have something to do with that. as dens said the brown 3 wire is your tps and the grey 3 wire next to it is your afm if you still use one.. the injector plugs will only reach certain injectors.. start with the plug that is near the tps/afm plugs.. plug this into the first injector closest to the oil cap and work your way back along the injectors.. plugging in the next plug as you go down the loom. as for the nismo engine mounts your picture above is correct. there is a small raised mark in the cast alluminium mount.. the mark that is painted white on the nismo mount must line up with this., i know it will look like the engine will sit 10mm higher but that's just how their made i guess.. make sure you line up the other mounts correctly also.. they will have the same kind of marks (just line them up). have fun.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 12:59:51 PM
	Thank's guys! I have removed the old bush's today and installed the new one... damn work to remove the old one without special tools, but nothing is impossible. I have asked matthew via email at the same time i have asked here, hope for an answer today at midday. Yes i am using a piggy back, it is a Dastek Unichip. I will keep you up to date, i hope for the first enginestart at monday... so far, thanks a lot, regards, christian

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 08:18:24 PM
	dont the 2 plugs near the ecu (6) go into the factory loom ? (12v feed/fuses/ignition switch etc), and (3) and (1) for 1st and 2nd lambda ? frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 11:42:22 PM
	Hello everybody, i received a email from matthew, thats what he said: "Picture 4. This one is going to be difficult. Plug number 6 connects to a block connector under the dash and in the centre close to where the ECU is located. Have you still got the original ECU fitted? ---the problem is, i know where to fit, in the middle between the black and white/yello wone, but i don't know what it is for--- Plug number 4 is for the wiper motor, one small problem you might find is the block connector will not reach your wiper motor because this loom is for a RHD car and you have a LHD car so the wiper motors are on different sides. Plug number 5 goes onto the fast idle device on the front of the air flow meter. Plugs 1,2 and 3 look like they are for the piggy back ECU, one is possibly and live and earth. You need to trace these back the to piggy back unit. 2 might be for the water temperature sensor, this is who the piggy back unit gets the standard ECU to increase the fuelling by sending false reading back from this sensor. Have a look at the instructions I sent for the Piggy back unit." ---i have looked to the instructions, but there are no informations about the installation of the piggy back. Could someone tell me where to locate the water temperature sensor? Later i will get back into the garage and have a look on the harness/ecu and #1 and #3, but i'm a little bit afraid to connect it wrog and damage the whole ecu, don't want to cause a short circuit...---

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 28 Dec 2008 11:52:33 PM
	christian there are 2 water temp sensors (under the distributor), a 1 wire one for the guage, and a 2 wire one for the ecu frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 29 Dec 2008 06:33:45 AM
	Ok i am back, nearly ready, the engine back in its old place, the mountings have been a little bit stronger to fit in, but no problem. I have shot some pictures of the harness again, because i have looked to it and traced every wire, i guess it is for the lamda sensot like frank had said. I compared the stock harness with the new, and i have noticed that the lamda-connector is missing. In a few minutes i will post the pictures, but at first i am going to take a shower... i am totally frozen ...

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 29 Dec 2008 07:32:20 AM
	Ok, i have tried to mark everything on the picture. I wil try to explain: #19 is a connector at the ignition distributor. As you can see on the pic, the wire is splitted into the white wire, green wire, and the other white wire back to the harness. The red wire on the picture is "dead". I will add an detailed pic, there is no trace of damage i think, and on the end where the green on is "fixed" is just place for one wire. The other two small wires, both with blue cap, black-red and white-red wire, are wired into the harness on the point where the harness comes out of the firewall. Sorry, wrong folder and wrong picture!!
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 29 Dec 2008 07:33:46 AM
	correct pic:
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 29 Dec 2008 07:35:10 AM
	the view into the connector of the small green wire, i think there is just room for one wire, don't think the red one moved out of it...
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 29 Dec 2008 07:40:06 AM
	That is my only idea... because the lamda-connector is 3-wired... but i don't know where to fit the small red-cap and the green-wire-connector. I just thought that it makes sense, red to red ...
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 29 Dec 2008 10:50:51 AM
	Excuse me, please forget the lamda-sensor-idea... my brain was too frozen... i have overlooked the connector for the lambda-sensor, so the search goes on.

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 29 Dec 2008 11:15:06 AM
	looks like people still get jigsaw puzzles for christmas!! Hope u get it sorted!

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 30 Dec 2008 05:29:47 AM
	Ok, now i know the engine was used without a lamber-sensor before, could that be the problem? Because the standard connector for the senso looks so dirty on the inside, no way that it was used/plugged in. I don't know much about running a car without a lamber sensor, but could it be that remaining wires was used to create/fake a signal? Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought all the time the engine needs a signal to create the mixture, right?

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 30 Dec 2008 05:35:54 AM
	christian i would have thought it was quite common to run them fulltime open loop and catless ? frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 30 Dec 2008 05:42:05 AM
	Sorry, i don't know to translate the word common exactly. The engine was used without a cat and almber-sensor yes, but i thought the ecu needs some signal to create the mixture? Because the stock engine runs with sensor+cat.

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 30 Dec 2008 05:50:12 AM
	christian i think the k11,s run open loop (disreguarding the lambda signal) at wide open throttle, and closed loop (signaled from the lambda) only when cruising frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 30 Dec 2008 06:00:59 AM
	Yes but i think thats the way it is at every car, opel audi and many more. I mean, when you disconnect the lambda sensor, what will happen? Would there be some kind of error? Thats why i thought the wires were used to fake some signals... but i am only thinking. I am now going to write an email to dastek, hope that will gring some clearing answers...

turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 30 Dec 2008 12:06:25 PM
	germank11 WROTE: "Yes but i think thats the way it is at every car, opel audi and many more. I mean, when you disconnect the lambda sensor, what will happen? Would there be some kind of error? Thats why i thought the wires were used to fake some signals... but i am only thinking. I am now going to write an email to dastek, hope that will gring some clearing answers..." many computers run without the lambda sensor. it is only there as a guide for the factory computer anyway. the factory lambda sensor will only aid in adjusting the mixtures a tiny bit. i guess if you set the ecu up properly you could disconnect it without any dramas... as has probably been done already.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 31 Dec 2008 08:57:01 AM
	I got some news, the engine breathed today for the first time. At first there was much of troubleshooting.. all the time the engine wasn't able to start, all sparkplugs have been wet. Over two hours i searched for the error, and at least i don't know exactly what it have been, because i changed the sparkplugs and ignitionleads, changed some parts on the ignitiondistributor and some more, but the main point is the engine was able to run in the end. Tomorrow i will fit the rest of the exhaustsystem, give me all your luck, the car must be ready tomorrow... I keep you up to date. Ps.: Perhaps the air intake will be for sale, because i need some chassis-modifications to install it... but i don't know for sure...

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 31 Dec 2008 09:09:49 AM
	germank11 WROTE: Ps.: Perhaps the air intake will be for sale, because i need some chassis-modifications to install it... but i don't know for sure..." noooo, cant you make a custom slam panel, and fit bonnet pins ?

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 31 Dec 2008 09:25:44 AM
	The problem will be the german "Tüv" , the company making the "MOT". It is not that easy like in Australia UK or somewhere. It is really fucked up here in germany... but i will keep you up to date, perhaps i get some ideas... :-)

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 01 Jan 2009 06:04:49 AM
	Hey everybody, the car is ready. It is not that expansion of power i have expectedm, but i think it will in fact of the stock-cat, the small air intake, and the mapping, it still needs high octane... But there is a big problem, the revmeter doens't work... could someone tell me which wires are for on the stock? Because there have been/are some differnces, for an example the temperaturesensor was connected wrong, now it work after 3 hours of troubleshooting. But the revmeter still won't work... please give me some advices.. Ps.: Have a good new year!

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 01 Jan 2009 06:13:10 AM
	christian the stock tacho is signaled from the ecu (there,s a pdf ecu pinout diagram on here somewhere), and most people use the blue wire from the dizzy to signal an aftermarket tacho. is your piggyback ecu installed ? have a good new year too, frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 01 Jan 2009 06:21:20 AM
	Yes both, the normal ecu, and the piggyback. Matthew told me that the previous owner used a seperate revmeter. But i am a little bit unsure, did not have any 1.3 K11 a revmeter? Or are there differences between the harnesses?

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 01 Jan 2009 06:28:55 AM
	christian my 1.0 dot has no tacho wire in the loom (nor many base models) if you,ve redirected the signal that previously went to the stock ecu, you will lose the signal out (to the stock tacho) eh frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 01 Jan 2009 06:34:29 AM
	Hm ok, could you tell me where the revmeter gets his signal from? I have compared the stock harness and this one, no difference in the enginebay to my old one, besides the small wires. I have also traced one of the small wires back to the harness under the dash, it was dead/not connected... strange...

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 01 Jan 2009 06:42:37 AM
	christian if your distributor signal is now going to the piggyback the stock ecu may not be getting an input signal, so you will probably need to run a wire from the dizzy (blue) to the back of the dashpod/clocks frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 01 Jan 2009 10:44:09 AM
	Ok thanks i will have a look. Another question: the brown connector near the ecu's at the picture, what is it for? My car doesn't used this slot, but on the harness there was an orange-black, red, and green-red wire connected. The orange-black one was relevant for the engine temperature, i re-connected it to the white/yellow connectorslot and now it works. The brown connector that i am talking about is numberd with #6 some pictures/posts before. regards, christian

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 02 Jan 2009 03:51:04 AM
	Ok, today i traced the harness again, and connected the blue/black wire, now the revmeter works! But another question, this morning the rev's jumped from 1000 to 1500, after another few kilometers the idle was set by 900-1000, and now after 20 kilometers, the rev in the idle is set by 2100. Is there an option to adjust the idle? I have naver worked on it before. regards, christian

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 02 Jan 2009 07:51:37 AM
	christian there,s a procedure in the haynes where you have to dicconnect the t/p/s, then hold the revs, then reconnect it. and the black plastic screw on the rear corner of the t/b is supposed to be the tickover screw (it an air bleed that bypasses the butterfly) frank

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 02 Jan 2009 10:39:29 AM
	frank2 WROTE: "christian i think the k11,s run open loop (disreguarding the lambda signal) at wide open throttle, and closed loop (signaled from the lambda) only when cruising frank" The K11 ecu's run entirely in closed loop.....even at WOT.

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 02 Jan 2009 10:47:55 AM
	SSUK WROTE: The K11 ecu's run entirely in closed loop.....even at WOT. " i stand corrected :)

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 02 Jan 2009 07:50:10 PM
	Good morning. Thanks frank, i will have a look on it, but a few minutes ago i moved the micra from our garage to the parkingplace in front of our house, and the idle was running smooth on 1000. I will check the idle over the day, and than come back to your advice!

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 02 Jan 2009 09:07:31 PM
	are u sure SSUK... i have a A/F ratio meter and when I floor it, the engine will go out of closed loop..... With a turbo, this happens at about 5 inches of vacuum... for me anyhow... Keep up the great work there Christian! Its gunna be a good year of driving for you!

SSUK » CMF Member London United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 03 Jan 2009 12:26:37 AM
	100% sure, I've seen the maps in live trace myself. One of our guys in particular here in the UK knows the K11 ECU's very well. He has successfully re-mapped several ECU's, including mine as well as a few turbo setups. The standard ECU barely uses 1/2 of it's load scale and the whole fuelling table is closed loop. The maps had to be altered manually to go onto open loop and it's not without it's pitfalls....the K11 ecu's are not easy to work with without experience. In my case, even on an NA setup, we decided it far simpler to go aftermarket and we now in the process of fitting an OMEX 600 series ecu with a DIS ignition setup. A dastek or similar will work but it just depends on what you are happy with and what your goals are. I am going all out aftermarket, as eventually I will be running a high compression engine with throttlebodies, which the standard ecu will not be able to run.....well not without some serious modifications....the OMEX on the other hand will handle it easily and keep the mapping setup simple.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 05 Jan 2009 12:08:31 AM
	By the way, is there an option to get some other speedometer's fitting into the micra? I have just thought about, because a friend of mine, working on cars and switching engines, told me that the "Tüv" required a bigger speedometer (->220 / ->240) on his projects. Yesterday i have been on the speedway for a short testdrive. The engine speed limiter is removed for sure, it breaks the 7500 RPM! Hell yeah, the speedometer showed 190km/h in the 4th gear on 175/60/13 (winter-tyres) and it is still running the stock air-intake and stock-cat. regards, christian

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 05 Jan 2009 06:30:39 AM
	acceleration times?

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 05 Jan 2009 07:48:52 AM
	Wouh i don't know, wasn't interested in it, main thing has been the engine runs ;-) But i will have a look at it the next weeks. But for sure, power comes in in the 2nd gear at 4000rpm...woooh, damn, very nice!

LonePhantom » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 05 Jan 2009 08:32:37 AM
	Awesome stuff, great to hear it was a relatively painless, quick engine swap. Now have fun! :-)

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 07 Jan 2009 05:48:10 AM
	Hey folks! same problem again with the idle: A few minutes ago i have been out for a short drive to the garage and the bank. I have started the engine, and the idle was like "dead". The engine would die without pushing the gaspedal. I needed to keep the revs around 2000rpm to drive out of our parking place in front of the house. Than i drove for 1.2km and had to stop at a crossroad. Ok, the idle was setted on ~900rpm, but right on the start when i pushed the gaspedal, there was quite nothing, needed to push the clutch again and bring the engine on some revs, but there was no reaction by pushing the gaspedal inbetween the first 7 seconds. Ok on the way to the garage i pushed the clutch to check the idle, everytime the idle jumps for 4 seconds from 1000 to 1500 rpm, but than calmed down on continuous 1000. Arrived at the garage (7km from our house to the garage) i stopped the engine, unloaded the parts into the garage, and started the engine again (after ~5minutes). The idle was now set on 2100rpm directly, now jumping, no gaspedal pushing. And on the whole way back the idle was set on 2100. Sometimes i slowed down the car on 50kmh in the 5th gear, the idle comes down on ~1200rpm, but right in the moment of pushing the clutch, the idle goes up to 2100, it is like someone is pushing the gaspedal. It is strange... this morning i installed the shortshifter, and moved the car into our garage behind our house (same thing with the idle, engine wants to die). The engine runned for ~15 Minutes, so it was warm, the cooler was running, but there was nothing serious with the idle. Forgot to say: When the idle is set on 2100rpm, and you change the gear on 3500 for an example, an push the clutch, the revs falling down veeery slowly down to 2100rpm. regards, christian Until now there was no time to check the accelerator cable, but could it be really the problem?

smidge » CMF Member Sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 07 Jan 2009 09:05:18 AM
	doubt it , as you'd see if it wasn't working properly... i vote either AFM problem or the idle just isntt set correctly

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 08 Jan 2009 12:55:02 AM
	Ok, if i change the throttlebodies between my two engine the problem should be fixed, cause the old one runned 100% perfect, or am i going wrong?

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 08 Jan 2009 01:14:54 AM
	Forgot to say, a few minutes ago the same problem. Engine has been on working temperature, i restarted him, idle was setted on 2100rpm directly. I also checked the temperature sensor, the black-white wire was only connected with 1 and a half wire left. I repaired it with the old connector (~30 minutes), and restarted the engine (not completely cooled down) and the idle was set on ~1800rpm.

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 08 Jan 2009 01:34:21 AM
	christian have you tried the reset, as in asdame,s post http://www.micra.com.au/community/message.php?messageid=42197 and is the idle control valve still being governed by the ecu, or the piggy-back ? frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 08 Jan 2009 05:05:39 AM
	Thanks frank. Matthew told me something about that and i have tried it this morning, but matthews describtion was shorter and not that detailed. I hope it will work with asdame instruction. I also have removed the old TB from the old engine, perhaps i will change it. But one thing for sure, after repairing the sensor the idle is set high on 2100 cold as warm... I don't know where the idle is governed, tomorrow i will trace the wires again. Thanks so far, regards, christian

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 09 Jan 2009 01:57:33 AM
	Hey, a few minutes ago i worked on the throttelbody. At first i tried to set the base idle following asdames "guide". Only thing happened: By disconnecting the throttle-position-sensor the idle raised up to 3100, I tried to adjust it on the black idle screw, but totally screwed in the idle was still set by ~2500rpm. Ok i have been pissed of, removed the TB and installed my old one, now it works (so far, later the day i will take it for a long test drive, but until now the revs are falling while shifting, and the idle is set by 1000rpm, if the idle is set lower the engine dies.) But is it normal that the idle raise a little bit when you disconnect the throttle-position-sensor? While disconnecting it i set the idle on ~1500rpm, and like i said now it is smooth on 1000rpm. Soooo, next things will be the remap after installing the air-intake, the other muffler (hope it will be quieter) and the high flow cat. The cat arrives today, it is a Magnaflow 200cpsi, hope it will work fine. Also i ordered the coilovers inbetween a "sponsoring-action", this allows me to buy it for the half price ;-) The Gti-R calipers have been sandblasted yesterday, perhaps i am going for some color, but at first new discs and pads. So there is still enough work. Main problem will be the exhaust-assessment i need to pass the TÜV. Any suggestions for it? I think the problem will be the "cold start" in fact of the removed 1st cat in the manifold. I have thought about a system called "cold-run-adjust-system (i tried to translate). It is a system adjusting the phase when the engine/cat/lambdasensor is not working on the working temperature, to reduce the emissions. Normally it is used to change the emission class from EURO1 to EURO2, but i hope it will help me jsut to KEEP EURO1. The Problem is, while failing the assessment, you still have to pay the costs, around ~1000Euro (it is about 1300 US Dollar) . So far, have a nice day @ all

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 09 Jan 2009 06:19:48 AM
	Ok... slowly but surely it is gonna be stupid. This morning i installed the other TB, set the idle on 1000rpm. So far so good, a few minutes ago i was out for a short ride, 7km from a to b and back. On the trip back, the same problem, but now on 1800rpm. I played around with the black idle screw, but after a while the problem was, by adjusting the screw to the "normal" idle with connected positionsenser -> the engine dies when DISconnecting the sensor... i have been a little bit stressed out, and in fact of that i adjusted the black idle screw with connected positionsensor, and it works too, don't know any problems. The problem for the moment : Either is set the idle high, the engine is able to keep alive while standing (doing nothing, waiting on a crossroad) but after a few minutes of driving the idle is set on 1800/1900, or: i set the idle as low as possible, after a few minutes of driving everything is ok, but while waiting/standing the idle falls at first on 1000, and than in steps to 700/800 and than the engine dies... I will experiment a few settings with the screw tomorrow, if i am not going crazy at first...

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 15 Jan 2009 04:52:20 AM
	Another question, in front of the throttlebody, on the connector for the FICD/ACC unit, there are one red and one black wire connected normally. On this harness both wires has been removed. Anyone knows what they are good for? I have looked into the wiring diagram, but i am not 100% sure what they are good for...

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 20 Jan 2009 05:04:25 PM
	Woooh still the same problem, no one who knows something about it?

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 20 Jan 2009 08:17:10 PM
	isn't that the idle control for a/c. Turbo reckons you don't need it, hence probably why its not connectible?

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 21 Jan 2009 03:56:58 AM
	Hey fred, yes it is, i have found it in the micra-book. But i mean the idle problem. It is still the same, just after a restart and after the first meters when the RPM come over 2000, it won't fall below 2000 RPM...

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 21 Jan 2009 08:50:04 PM
	damn that's frustrating, I wish i had the solution...

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 21 Jan 2009 09:19:46 PM
	christian can you not see the data on the fly (via consult and laptop) in order to find out what is being signaled when it is "high idle-ing" ? i,ve got no idle control valves at all and i run on gas (and i set the idle with a vacuum bleed valve on the dash), but sometimes the tickover will hunt up and down ???, (maybe my ecu can,t make it,s mind up where to set the ignition advance eh ?) frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 22 Jan 2009 05:32:19 AM
	Hey Frank! Yes i have thought about it too, but til now there have been no time for reading the datas. But another thing, what will be difficult to explain with my english: I have checked the throttlepotentiometer and the ACC valve. I have compared the results with the reference value of my micra-book, and listen: Reference Value: throttlepoti closed: 500 Ohm throttlepoti full throttle: 4000 Ohm ACC Valve pin 2 to 3 25-45 Ohm and pin 3 to 4 25-45 Ohm. Ok i have checked my throttlevalvepoti, and set it to 500 Ohm closed position (all settings on working temperature) but after a few kilometers i checked it, and it was set on ~650 Ohm. ACC Valve suprised me, i have checked it too : pin 2 to 3 and pin 3 to 4 ~83 Ohm, nearly twice as much. And from pin 2 to 4 ~160 Ohm. But as far as i know there is nothing to set on the ACC valve, because it is governed by the ECU, isn't it?

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 22 Jan 2009 05:49:13 AM
	christian i believe, the idle control valve is one of the very few settings that you can remap, via consult frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 24 Jan 2009 04:29:53 AM
	In the meanwhile some other news: Today my new headlights and nismo emblems arrived, have a look:
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 24 Jan 2009 04:30:20 AM
	nismo-emblem:
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 25 Jan 2009 11:05:14 AM
	Hey girls... something new for this day: started the work on the chassis, i hope i will finish tomorrow. Also you can see on the left side int he picture on of the new headlights, but it looks quite the same because it is just a mobilephone-picture. Back to the old problem: Between the last 3 days, 4 times i tried to "produce" the idleproblem with a restart, but the idle was smooth on 1000rpm... It is not solved complete, but not that bad like one week before..
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 30 Jan 2009 06:40:14 AM
	Wohhey... today i have finished with the air intake. It was a damn job to fit it in, when i have thought "yeah ready!" ... haha the bonnet wasn't able to close. But now everything is ok, tomorrow i will take the micra for a short testdrive, perhaps i will make some short vids and load them up to youtube. I am really interested in the difference between stock air filter box and the group a air intake. But one thing for sure... it sounds great, not like a small micramachine!
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sportsclassic » CMF Member sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 30 Jan 2009 07:21:25 AM
	Love the air box!! Damn aussie dollar :(

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 01 Feb 2009 08:16:13 AM
	The mummy is back.... haha, in the moment i am wrapping the manifold into some heattape, here some pics!
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 01 Feb 2009 02:03:30 PM
	Just a short question: Is there an option to wrap the tape too tight? I have wrapped it half over half, if you know what i mean. A few minutes ago i was out for a short ride, and after 4/5km it smelled badly. Ok i think the smell is coming from the brand new tape, but when i looked on the manifold it was glowing... normal? Ok it is logical that there is more heat because the air-cooling-effect is missing, and the stell is getting to hot and will be damaged. Any ideas?

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 01 Feb 2009 07:42:20 PM
	christain you,re not running it too lean are you ? (i melted the top of my cat when i had the lpg settings too lean on my old super s) frank

Mickb » CMF Member Perth Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sun 01 Feb 2009 09:08:14 PM
	takes a bit for it to burn on there, does smell a bit

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 02 Feb 2009 01:14:02 AM
	frank2 WROTE: "christain you,re not running it too lean are you ? (i melted the top of my cat when i had the lpg settings too lean on my old super s) frank" Hey frank! As far as i know it is running a little bit too rich (thats what matthew told me) But i screwed the fuel reg a quarter turn back to unrich it, i will turn it back today. Yesterday after smelling the tape i went back home smooth (not driving over 2500rpm) and in the garage (everything was dark) nothing glowed.

sportsclassic » CMF Member sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 02 Feb 2009 01:09:11 PM
	The exhaust manifold will glow red hot if you are up it for long periods of time, like on the dyno and on a race track

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 02 Feb 2009 02:52:32 PM
	Ok, today i reset the fuel reg to the old setup (quarter-turn clockwise) A few hours ago i was out for some kilometers, city and freeway, now everything seems to be ok, no smell, no glowing. I hope for some pics with higher quality this week, i have made some headshield to protect the airintake too.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 25 Feb 2009 05:58:07 AM
	..."breaking the needle"... I am of from work for about one week, and i am visiting my parents right now in the moment. It was a 450km-trip over the highway, and hell yeah the micramachine is running, great ;-) I know now that i don't really need the 5th gear, driving in the 4th gear at ~8000rpm comes out on ~205km/h, everything more in the 5th gear will break the speedometer-needle -lol- Any ideas for some new speedometer? Perhaps switch to the 1.0-gearbox? Mik told my the 1.0-gearbox will be damaged, it might not be construcetd for such power... any suggestions? Something i am wondering about: The mileage is quite the same. Ok when you get evil and run it over 7000rpm for a long time it will be a little thirsty monster, but altogether it is thirsty as a stock cg13de. I am running the new engine for 2000 kilomters now. I hope for some vids... until today i was not able to make some clip because there was no good camera.

frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 25 Feb 2009 06:55:49 AM
	christian the post 98 1.0,s are the same g/box (and the 14" wheel 1.0,s have a 4.5:1 diff) frank

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 25 Feb 2009 09:55:41 AM
	A few minutes ago i have shot some pictures. Here my selfmade gearknob, 2 years old, need some kind of high-polish-work... but i am too lazy..
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 25 Feb 2009 09:58:26 AM
	Here is a picture of the complete engine-bay, complete air-intake, modified chassis and the heat shield.
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 25 Feb 2009 10:07:37 AM
	...detailed view on the heat shield and the connection point from the air intake.... it is connected with an unstitched inner tube of an bicycle. In my opinion the only way to catch the moves of the engine while acceleration, and keep the two parts of the intake "free connected", because the front part of the intake is fixed/screwed to the chassis.
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LonePhantom » CMF Member Canberra Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 25 Feb 2009 12:55:26 PM
	Great work, looks like a serious little NA engine.

squarepants » CMF Member United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Wed 25 Feb 2009 08:09:01 PM
	amazing work :)love it!

fusca » CMF Member Leiria Portugal Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 28 Feb 2009 11:15:06 AM
	Very good work!

fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Sat 28 Feb 2009 08:56:20 PM
	so, whats the process when you check your oil......

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 02 Mar 2009 04:19:30 AM
	fred WROTE: "so, whats the process when you check your oil......" Like the normal way, look at the hole in the shield.

Unknown1029 » CMF Member Dundee United Kingdom Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 02 Mar 2009 06:45:01 AM
	hello mate, a few things...i heatwrapped my janspeed manifold and within a week it had a 100mm crack down it. also if you still havent sorted the problem with the high idle, make sure you arent setting the accelerator cable to tight, to test it take the cable off and leave it hanging and start the car :P love the project youve got going here!! :D

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 12 May 2009 03:00:38 AM
	Hey there! I am back on the road... excuse me the last weeks have been fucked up, some private problems... After a long time i fixed the high-idle problem. It was a damaged throttlebodie. But, i have changed it, and after one week there was another problem: After driving "hard" with full throttle and coming over 4000rpm, the micra gets crazy. Like there was a little monster in the engine stopping the airflow or something else. It was a style of driving like a rodeo-ride, go-stop go-stop... But after a few minutes, for an example you went to a supermarket and the engine was off for 10 minutes, the game starts again, until you drive it "hard" again. Today i installed another throttlebody, until now it runs perfect. One question, is there an option for overheating the throttlebody? Perhaps the electronic will be damaged by the heat of the engine? Whats the normal temperature for the throttlebody when the engine is on workingtemperature? Hot like "woouuhh fingerburning"? Ok, but there was time for some other goodies: I installed a selfmade strut brace on the rear axle. I will make some pictures near the end of the week. Also i installed the D2-Racing coilovers. I have waited since january to get them. This setup is really fine, but there was not enough time to try different damper-settings. One question for some coilover-experts: What value of preload do you use for the springs? The was no describtion within the manual, and i only remember to me downhillmountainbike, there was a rule-of-thumb: turn the screw until the spring is not able to move freely, and from this point one more turn... Also i installed the repairkits to the gti-r brakes, when i got the new discs and pads i will add them to my little racer. The last step will be to install the race-cat and to remove the silencer from the rear muffler, i hope for this in two weeks! So far, kind regards, Christian

sportsclassic » CMF Member sydney Australia Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 12 May 2009 09:57:24 AM
	germank11 WROTE: "Hey there! I am back on the road... excuse me the last weeks have been fucked up, some private problems... After a long time i fixed the high-idle problem. It was a damaged throttlebodie. But, i have changed it, and after one week there was another problem: After driving "hard" with full throttle and coming over 4000rpm, the micra gets crazy. Like there was a little monster in the engine stopping the airflow or something else. It was a style of driving like a rodeo-ride, go-stop go-stop... But after a few minutes, for an example you went to a supermarket and the engine was off for 10 minutes, the game starts again, until you drive it "hard" again. Today i installed another throttlebody, until now it runs perfect. One question, is there an option for overheating the throttlebody? Perhaps the electronic will be damaged by the heat of the engine? Whats the normal temperature for the throttlebody when the engine is on workingtemperature? Hot like "woouuhh fingerburning"? Ok, but there was time for some other goodies: I installed a selfmade strut brace on the rear axle. I will make some pictures near the end of the week. Also i installed the D2-Racing coilovers. I have waited since january to get them. This setup is really fine, but there was not enough time to try different damper-settings. One question for some coilover-experts: What value of preload do you use for the springs? The was no describtion within the manual, and i only remember to me downhillmountainbike, there was a rule-of-thumb: turn the screw until the spring is not able to move freely, and from this point one more turn... Also i installed the repairkits to the gti-r brakes, when i got the new discs and pads i will add them to my little racer. The last step will be to install the race-cat and to remove the silencer from the rear muffler, i hope for this in two weeks! So far, kind regards, Christian" Hi Christian, with the coilovers it depends how high or low you want the car to sit. The lower the spring tension the lower the car will sit.. just try the method that you said and see how it go's.

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Tue 12 May 2009 02:24:55 PM
	Hey! Nono, i am not talking about the "high" of the car, i am talking about the preload of the spring. To adjust the high there is a seperate thread. Have look on this: http://www.k-sportracing.de/picture/zubehoer/indexpix.jpg the lower screw will fix the "high-setup" after turning the damper in or out, but the two upper screws will fix the spring, and i dont know whats the value for the preload, one turn, two turn. Because to much turns will damage the chassi because it is too strong. But i think my actual setup with one turn preload is a good standard-setup. The thing you are talking about is the "normal" way to set the high of the car and standard coilovers. The K-Sport and D2-Racing coilovers are able to set the high, without changing the character of the damper. Have a look on this: http://www.k-sportracing.de/picture/fahrwerk_hoehen.jpg

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 14 May 2009 12:29:43 AM
	Some pictures of the magnaflow-cat:
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 14 May 2009 12:30:20 AM
	second one...
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germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 14 May 2009 01:40:11 AM
	third one:
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fusca » CMF Member Leiria Portugal Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Mon 18 May 2009 08:40:56 PM
	Your micra is brutal! Big project. Continues!

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Thu 21 May 2009 10:09:50 AM
	Hey folks, ready for some new troubleshooting? Today i was out on the roadway on the way to my parents. A few days ago i installed the 200cpsi cat. After the half way (200km) i was not able to get faster than 160km/h in the flat. Is like there is no power... In the first and second gear the micra accelerates perfect up to 8000, but in the third gear after coming over ~5500/6000 it is like there is no power... On some parts on the roadway like a hill, i wasn't able to come over 130km/h... crazy. Again, first and second gears a perfect... Don't know what it could be, some suggestions? Tommorow i gonna check the normal things like sparkplugs, filters and and and. regards, christian

germank11 » CMF Member Germany Member since: Posts:	Re: germank11's micra-project	Fri 22 May 2009 05:22:36 AM
	I have solved the problem: Two spark plugs are damaged, totally melted down... cylinder 1 and 4. The next days i will post some picture, does anyone know some reason for that kind of damage? The spark plugs are in use since ~20000km, ~7500km with the "new" engine. I don't think it will be a effect of the 200cpsi cat, or am i wrong?