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1300cc » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
lightened flywheel |
Sun 27 Jul 2008 04:19:08 PM |
any member here who have NA micras on lightened flywheel? i want to know if fuel consumption is more before fitting a lightened flywheel? or does it improved consumpton? anyone?
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sun 27 Jul 2008 05:20:26 PM |
pol
a lighter f/w will only save fuel while you are accelerating, and makes no difference at other times frank |
1300cc » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sun 27 Jul 2008 07:18:59 PM |
thanks frank, i was told that if i lightened the f/w it will the drop rpm very quick, so r u saying it will not consumed more petrol as long i dont drive it hard?
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sun 27 Jul 2008 07:54:50 PM |
pol
yeh, the rpm will respond quicker, up or down, you just need a bit less throttle for the same rate of acceleration. but savings are probably very small frank |
1300cc » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sun 27 Jul 2008 08:11:17 PM |
one last question frank....whats the overall benefit of putting a ligthened f/w on NA cars?
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frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sun 27 Jul 2008 08:43:12 PM |
pol
it just gives you a better throttle response , and improves your 0 to 60 time frank |
makes » CMF Member Gold Coast Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Mon 28 Jul 2008 08:54:54 AM |
Hi Pol,
I have a Jun lightweight flywheel fitted to my car. I can confirm it's a worthwhile upgrade and improves the reponsiveness of the motor. I didn't detect any change in fuel economy. I would recommend buying a complete replacement lightweight flywheel (about $450 from www.perfectrun.com.au)rather than trying to lighten the factory one. |
deNs » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Mon 28 Jul 2008 11:33:04 AM |
Don't bother lightening the factory one - just grab the JUN item like makes has said.
There's been entire threads about the whole thing about it decreasing fuel consumption. Bottom line from memory was that while it may possibly help reduce it while accelerating, the savings would be negligable. People on here i'm pretty sure don't buy a lightweight F/W to save fuel.. I know that's not why I bought mine. ---dens |
1300cc » CMF Member melbourne Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Mon 28 Jul 2008 07:14:11 PM |
thnx 2 everyone....
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Yom » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Mon 28 Jul 2008 09:03:31 PM |
You can take some decent weight off the factory flywheel because it is a 2 piece setup and the friction surface isnt actually what holds it all together. But in saying that you can't get the weight off it where it needs to come off (the outer edges).
better off buying a decent chromoloy job. |
gu_niang1200 » CMF Member Bedok Nth Singapore Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Wed 30 Jul 2008 08:51:34 PM |
yeah.. its true.. jun flywheels are so much better... but they have a new range 3.6kg.. rather than the 4.3 kg ones... not sure if its too light for a 3.6kg.. would love to try one.
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Yom » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Wed 30 Jul 2008 09:24:05 PM |
As I said, depends on where the weight is not really how much it weighs.
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turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Wed 30 Jul 2008 09:28:47 PM |
yeh the jun race one's (3.6kg) basically have nothing on the outside diameter, apart from a bunch of 20-30mm holes :D
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gu_niang1200 » CMF Member Bedok Nth Singapore Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Thu 31 Jul 2008 08:55:42 PM |
so to say .. its not that practical compared to the 4.3kg? any comments guys?
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turbo march-rolling shell » CMF Member brisbane Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Thu 31 Jul 2008 09:11:12 PM |
gu_niang1200 WROTE: "so to say .. its not that practical compared to the 4.3kg? any comments guys? " the lighter, the better. imo |
gu_niang1200 » CMF Member Bedok Nth Singapore Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Fri 01 Aug 2008 08:29:55 PM |
oh shit.. you may me itch again.... thinking of getting
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littlebear » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Tue 26 Aug 2008 08:26:45 PM |
turbo march-rolling shell WROTE: " gu_niang1200 WROTE: "so to say .. its not that practical compared to the 4.3kg? any comments guys? " the lighter, the better. imo" Charlotte's new owner supplied me with the Jun ultralight flywheel to put in when doing the gearbox. These things really transform the car. My mechanic questioned going so light—but not after putting it in! He was astounded at the difference it made. So was I. Go light, Farken great mod for the micra :) |
daily_ricer » CMF Member Adelaide Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Fri 29 Aug 2008 11:53:16 PM |
Hey pol,
as littlebear said, I ordered the 3.6kg JUN flywheel from PerfectRun.com.au. They were pretty good with their pricing, postage and service, very quick with replying to emails etc. It seems that they are simply a middle man in that they do not have the items in stock. In this way, prices for the items and the postage vary with the exchange rate. It worked out that the flywheel cost me around AU$390, postage was around AU$80. It arrived within 6 days, Japan to Adelaide. It really is a great mod. Some people make the comment that you will have problems with the lack of engine inertia to help keep idle or to prevent stalling when launching when installing somthing so light. But I have not had this trouble, it is great. So much better engine response, the micra just wants to rev and get the car going. I guess the only problem is now that I am wanting to race everything, so for the moment fuel economy is probably not the best until the novelty wears off. I'll need to do a couple of test runs agains my sister in her stock standard LX. Here are a couple comparison photos. As you can see, if you were going to try and lighten the factory flywheel, you've got a lot of work to do... Standard (I think 8.6kg) Flywheel: JUN 3.6kg Ultra-Lightweight Flywheel: As an example, these guys recon that the difference in acceleration experienced in 1st gear for every 1kg removed from the flywheel is like removing 30kg from the weight of the car. SO the Ultra-Lightweight JUN item is 5kgs lighter than standard, and is supposedly like taking your stock standard 850kg micra down to 700kgs. I really do not know how much truth there is to this, but it'd be interesting to be able to test it. |
frank2 » CMF Member birmingham United Kingdom Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sat 30 Aug 2008 02:29:55 AM |
daily_ricer
a 1.3 with a 4kg 1.0 f/w is easy to lighten tho, and the early 1.0 g/box is about 2/3,s the weight frank |
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sportsclassic » CMF Member sydney Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sat 30 Aug 2008 09:19:24 AM |
I got our standard flywheel machined, it is about 4.6kg's from memory
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fred » CMF Member Murwillumbah Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sat 30 Aug 2008 10:47:01 AM |
For comparisons... make sure youse do the same thing... like 3gear @40kph so there is no driver involvement... 4 me I took only 1.5 kg of my stock fly and improved 0-100 times by 1.5 sec....
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Yom » CMF Member Brisbane Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sat 30 Aug 2008 12:32:25 PM |
sportsclassic WROTE: "I got our standard flywheel machined, it is about 4.6kg's from memory" Mine and GTRHOLIC's were at least double that. |
deNs » CMF Member Melbourne Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sat 30 Aug 2008 03:59:48 PM |
Yom WROTE: " sportsclassic WROTE: "I got our standard flywheel machined, it is about 4.6kg's from memory" Mine and GTRHOLIC's were at least double that." Yeah the stock flywheel for the CG13 at least is 9KG. Surely you didn't machine off half the weight from it..? ---dens |
sportsclassic » CMF Member sydney Australia Member since: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: lightened flywheel |
Sat 30 Aug 2008 07:25:54 PM |
Sorry guys!! looked at my notes today, it weighed 5.6kgs, it took alot of effort but it worked,. i would take a photo of it but its in the car!!!!
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